The intent of this article is not to debate which site is superior, but rather to lay out the basic facts of each. Keep in mind that both have the same goal: to promote small businesses and handmade treasures.
Etsy Basics
The original site for handmade items, which some believe has more traffic.
- Costs: 20 cents to list item, plus 3.5% sale price.
- Listings expire in 4 months.
- No live links on profile or listings.
- Automatic submission to Google Base.
- Listing order in categories by default: New items first.
- Accepts PayPal, check/money order.
- Offers promotional tools
Artfire Basics
Has both free and pro options, although free has limitations. For comparison purposes, pro features are shown below.
- Costs: $9.95 per month.
- Listings never expire.
- Live links welcome in profile, but not on listings.
- Automatic submission to Google Base.
- Listing order in categories by default: Random.
- Accepts PayPal, Google Checkout, Amazon Checkout, check/money order.
- Offers promotional tools
Cost Comparison
If you are looking at costs alone, here are some examples based on number of items and length of time an item is listed. For now, we will leave out the additional fees Etsy charges when an item is sold.
Example #1: 50 Items, 1 year, No Sales
Let's say for a minute you plan to add 50 items to your shop to start. You plan to keep this many items in your store for a year, and do not make any sales at all the first year (of course, we hope this wouldn't be the case, but for this example you do not). On Etsy, your listings expire in 4 months. Artfire listings do not expire for Pro accounts. The costs would be as follows:
Etsy - 50 items x $0.20 x 3 times per year = $30
Artfire - $9.95 x 12 months = $119.40
At a glance, it would appear Etsy is best. Do keep in mind you have made no sales, and it would not include relisting fees for items sold.
Example #2: 50 Items, 4 months , 10 sales
For this example, let's assume your items are about $20 each. You'll only be keeping these listings for 4 months, and will not be renewing. The costs would be as follows:
Etsy - 50 items x $0.20 + 3.5% sales fee ($20 x 10 x 0.035) = $17
Artfire - $9.95 x 4 months = $39.80
It still looks like Etsy is the winner for this particular test. But what if your items are higher priced? In this example, you sold $200 worth of goods, but paid $7 in additional fees. If your items averaged $100, your sales would be $1,000 and you would have paid $35 in fees, making Artfire the better deal.
Example #3: 100 items, 4 months, 30 sales
For the next example, let's assume you list 100 items in 4 months, and make 20 sales in this time. Again, the average price per item will be $20, making your gross sales total $600. You would see the following costs:
Etsy - 100 x $0.20 + 3.5% ($20 x 30 x .035) = $41.00
Artfire - $9.95 x 4 months = $39.80
As you can see, Artfire starts to become a slightly better deal when you start to look at a large number of items listed and increase in sales.
Example #4: 100 items, 1 year, 60 sales
For the final example, let's take a look at the costs for more than a year, and an increase in sales. Again, assume the average sale is $20. Also, since you'll be keeping a minimum of 100 items in your store, you'll be relisting at Etsy every 3 months. To make it simple, we'll say you only list every 4 months on Etsy.
Etsy - 100 items listed x $0.20 x 3 times per year + 3.5% sales fee (60 sales x $20 x .035) = $102
Artfire - $9.95 x 12 months = $119.40
Again you'll see that Etsy is the better deal, but that number can change drastically depending on the amount and costs of the items sold. Also, if you decide to list more than 100 items, your cost at Etsy is going to increase, while your Artfire cost will stay the same.
Which is Better?
Don't let the examples fool you - it is VERY easy to get caught up in the Etsy renew game, where you could be spending much more to keep your item at the top of the categories. Also, depending on the items you sell and how many you have, it can be easy to spend a large amount of money on Etsy.
No one can tell you which site is better to sell your handmade items. Using the examples above, figure the costs of your own average sales and how many items you plan to list in a year to determine which is more cost effective for you in the long run.
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7 Comments
Post a CommentWith etsy you will never get sales unless you keep relisting to bump your items to the front.....a non issue with artfire.
With relisting fees etsy can come out to $500 a month for full time sellers while artfire is a humble $8 a month.
Etsy isnt about making listings once. Its about bumping them daily, so your article is entirely flawed.
Gayle - Which numbers are incorrect? I'd be happy to update if I knew which figures you were refering to.
Check your formula; it appears some amounts are not included, if I read you right.
Some of the benefits for selling on Artfire and for being an Artfire Pro members include;
1. No LISTING or FINAL VALUE fees
2. You can offer Google Checkout and Amazon Payments options to your buyers in addition to PayPal
3. Great selling tools
4. Artfire provides a phone number that Pro members can CALL and talk to a real person M-F during normal business hours
5. Artfire helps Pro members products rank high on Google
6. Your products are listed on Google Shopping quickly
7. Coupon codes
8. Use up to 10 images per product
9. Artfire staff informs their sellers of what is going on BEFORE they make changes
10. Artfire LISTENS to their SELLERS
11. NEVER have to renew to be seen in Artfire searches
12. You can list 5, 10, 50 or even a quantity of 100 of a item and NEVER have to pay extra. That is also good for your product SEO because it preserves the original date that the product was listed
13. Sellers are very willing to help other sellers in the Artfire forums
14. You
earthegy - absolutely correct. If you are selling products, Etsy is going to cost you more. I, too, chose to sell products and not just use either site as a form of advertising.
An Observer - This hasn't been the case with us. The views are more at Etsy, yes, but zero sales.That's even with promoting the Etsy shop over the Artfire shop. So I'm not sure where the "sales success is greater on Etsy" is coming from if we have 11 sales on Artfire vs. 0 sales on Etsy.
I disagree with the first comment...etsy's not the way to go if you're actually selling products. After 6 months on etsy my average bill was around $40 a month. In my first month on artfire I sold three times as much at the flat rate of $9.95 a month.
Now if you just want to list items and not sell them and keep the costs down, etsy's probably a better choice for you. But I choose to sell.
Your commentOne of the most important parts of selling is exposure. Reasing feedback in forums on both sites, it is quite clear that Etsy has significantly greater number of vistors to Artfire. It is also quite clear that sales success is much greater on Etsy.