Baggy Pants - Harmless Fad, Evidence of Evil, Teen Rebellion or Indication of a Lost Generation

Jim Stillman
When I was in high school, back in the day, we did not affect clothing or grooming styles that were out of sync with those of our parents. Since I lived a life in a small city north of Boston, I asked the Lovely Joan, who was raised in the shadows of New York City -- thus being exposed to a much less rigid culture - if her friends and she wore clothes and hair in a manner that, intentionally or serendipitously, managed to annoy teachers, adults generally, and, specifically, parents.

Her response was that these were issues that never came up. There were rules of which everyone was familiar. Girls wore skirts or dresses to school and changed into jeans after classes. Guys wore shirts and slacks to school, usually shirts with collars.

By the time our daughters were in high school, boys were letting hair grow long and some young people were starting to adopt "grunge". High school girls attracted boys and annoyed parents by wearing min-skirts. For the most part, it was generally accepted that the teens would, someday, eventually, grow up and adapt to the adult world.

We have now come to the point where young men, in particular, have adopted the culture, clothes and language of young African-American males; those individuals are adopting as role models inmates in prison. It is the latter point that creates the problem.

While there is some controversy as to the sources of the new "fashion", baggy pants worn so loosely that they perch somewhere well below the waist, exposing, usually, decorative boxer shorts, most believe it comes from prison inmates. Bill Maxwell, writing in the St. Petersburg Times, suggests an alternative origin derived from slavery times. Some white masters would rape their African male slaves; subsequently, the victims were forced to wear their pants sagging so that their masters could identify them for future attacks. According to Mr. Maxwell, dehumanized black slaves wearing sagging pants were said to be announcing that they were available for their white masters. Over time, the style became a little-talked-about subculture that seeped into general black culture.

The other version says the fashion developed in prison among black convicts. Judge Greg Mathis, host of a television program, said in Jet Magazine, "In prison you aren't allowed to wear belts to prevent self-hanging or the hanging of others. . . [Inmates] take off the belt and sometimes your pants hang down. ... Many cultures of the prison have overflowed into the community unfortunately. ... Those who pulled their pants down the lowest and showed their behind a little more, that was an invitation. [The youth] don't know this part about it. I always tease and tell them that they better be careful because some man who has been in prison 30 years who comes home and doesn't know any difference may think it's an open invitation."

The issue of drooping drawers, as it were, has become a major area of controversy, to the point that school districts throughout the country are adapting school dress codes to combat the "problem". To prove that this issue is not wholly male, these same codes address females whose bra straps show.

Schools are not the only place where baggy low drooping pants are an issue. Two Louisiana towns, Delcambre and Kinder, have taken action. Both ordinances state, "It shall be unlawful for any person in any public place or in view of the public to be found in a state of nudity, or partial nudity, or in dress not becoming to his or her sex, or in any indecent exposure of his or her person or undergarments, or be guilty of any indecent or lewd behavior."

With a population of 2,500, it's easy to spot saggy pants in Kinder. When Kinder Mayor Estes LeDeoux decided he had seen enough droopy pants in 2003, not many spoke out against his proposal to ban them.

"We didn't have any controversy over the matter," LeDeoux said, "The chief and I got together to draw up the ordinance, and there was nothing else said about it. We never had any problems at all."

Kinder officials said they have not had to issue any citations over its ordinance, but officials in Delcambre stated they have issued "a few."

The city of Brazoria, Texas, is considering a ban as are the cities of Los Angeles and Atlanta, in spite of critics who suggest the proposals are specifically designed to crack down (please excuse the bad pun) on youth, and particular, African-American culture. There is, without question, a racial aspect to this focus on a clothing fad.

OK, so what is the difference between the teen fads of old and the wearing of goofy fitting pants or the wearing of baseball caps sideways or backwards or dancing while grasping body parts that were once grasped only in private? In motion pictures and television programs African-Americans hold pistols at a 90° angle or make strange obtuse gestures, thrusting hands forward, and fingers spread apart, pointing horizontally. Why is this behavior so disturbing and why do so many commentators decry it? It may be more than racism and many African-Americans agree.

Judge Mathis explains, "Young people have given up on society as a result of the obstacles they face. Instead of fighting back, they join the subculture of drugs and crime as a means of what they believe will uplift them from poverty. So you have this [interchange] of what is cool and hip in the 'hood and what is hip and cool in prison. You have a revolving door. ... I want to challenge our brothers to pull up their pants and lift up their head. ... We're no longer slaves. We are free to fight back, and that's what we must do."

But it's not only African-Americans. As Mr. Maxwell notes, "In fact, an increasing number of white, Hispanic and Korean males are adopting saggin'. The reality, of course, is that these white, Hispanic and Korean youngsters know when it's time to grow up and put away their unsavory low-slung wear. Not so with too many young black males, who never grow up. They go to their untimely graves saggin'."

Published by Jim Stillman

Retired from Florida Department of Revenue after 25 years.and retired New York attorney. I am a liberal with regard to social responsibility and, likely, a Libertarian otherwise.  View profile

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  • HOPEFUL4/8/2012

    There is a huge moral decline in this country. There is a huge gap between wanting to be free and hip and wanting to be naked and disrespectful. America needs to take heed to what Judge Mathis has stated. He use to be one of those bad kids with little respect for authority. In this culture, our young sons may not live to change. There is nothing wrong with wearing losely fitting pants. There is everything wrong with revealing your undergarments by sagging the pants so low. My son even took it to an all time low moment...he pulled his pants down...he thought he was entertaining his friends outdoors at the stadium. He was shocked when i suddenly appeared and escorted him to the office. Insisted that the school discipline him immediately. Parents like me need a lot of help from the school administrators and the local government officials. Again my son showed up in class with the sagging jeans. He was surprised to see me sitting in the back of the class when he arrived. I screamed when I saw how low his pants sagged...the counselor next to me said ..."not now, we will handle this later, just take notes." My son was the only one dressed this way in the class. Sure there were others in other classes. Long Stringly hair, bell bottoms, tie-dyed t-shirts...this i can live with....however, i will not tolerate the showing of undergarments.
    Besides, it is just not practical...it is not conducive to a normal walking gait...you will not be able to react appropriately in an emergency....moms should never trust dads who sag with their small children...what will they grab first when faced with an emergency...yes they will grab their pants first.

  • jorge mencias2/27/2009

    i like to wear baggy pant on school

  • danielle woodruff1/26/2009

    hi my name is danielle woodruff&&i am a hugee slutt&i am a majorr stalkerr!

  • Danielle Woodruff1/26/2009

    im a pyscho stalker who obsesses over gus right when i look at them:)

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  • Kendra Turner1/26/2009

    i like to eat apples and bananas.

  • Cher9/5/2007

    I am a school teacher who wants my young males to look well-groomed because it gives the appearance of organization and self-pride. I have been speaking with them about the sagging pants issue, and they just don't believe me because I am "old-timey". I will use the article to try to "spark" life into this issue that happens to be dead to them.
    Thanks,
    Cher in Alabama

  • Genie Walker9/1/2007

    I hate the baggy look, but then my folks hated my stringy hair, bell bottoms and tied-dyed t-shirts. I'm sure once they are adults with children most will be embrassed as a lot of us are of our youth photos. I decided to get over my dislike and go for tolerance. I also try not to laugh too loud when someone pants drop completely to the ground.

  • Amy Weekley8/27/2007

    I've been saying for years that if my son (or daughter, for that matter) ever tries to wear baggy pants with his underwear hanging out the top, I was going to staple his pants to his back. It's going to be a well-known rule in our house. I hate that look. Cover your butt!

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