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Conservative Punk is Just Plain Stupid

Political Nonsense from a Nonsensical Organization

paul angelo
Since I am unable to quell my growing disdain for all things right wing, I have decided to unload today's frustration on the ridiculously senseless organization-Conservative Punk.

First of all, can there be a greater contradiction of terms? Nonetheless, Conservative Punk was apparently conceived as a response to Fat Mike from Nofx's Punk Voter organization, and to counteract what they call the "oversimplification" of complex topics by "heavy handed" political punk rock. I can't help but wonder who they are referring to? Could they be talking about the anything but simplistic social commentary and impact of The Clash, Sex Pistols,Fifteen, Billy Bragg, Dead Kennedy's, Anti-Flag and even Green Day, who despite their pop credentials and somewhat unserious history, have become a very serious, dare I say Clash-like band; conversely, I'd like to know what contribution to the political dialogue that the so-called "conservative punk" bands have made?

But I digress-During my visits to the Conservative Punk website since its inception, I have always gotten a good laugh. One of the goals listed in their mission statement reads; "To encourage the young voters to draw their own conclusions rather than indoctrinate them to a certain way of thinking." Sounds like a noble cause right? You might be thinking - How does Conservative Punk accomplish encouraging "young voters" to be independent thinkers? How else-by filling their website with establishment, Republican talking points and ideas that would make punk rock icon Sean Hannity proud, such as French bashing, gay bashing, liberal bashing, Kerry bashing, Reagan loving, UN bashing, fear-mongering about Iranian nukes, insistence that there are WMD in Iraq, corporate pandering, insistence that Iraq is going well and general defense of silver spoon, country club, private school bred chicken-hawk, draft dodger George Dubya Bush-how punk rock is that!!

Pathetically, the most well known figures associated with the group are little known right-wing radio host Andrew Wilkow, and Michael Graves, former Marine and singer for the reincarnated Misfits, and more recently a band called Gotham Road. Some may remember the Daily Show's satirical feature of Graves a couple of years ago. Interestingly, according to Graves' Wikipedia profile, he had not even heard a Misfits song before buying the Collection I album in order to prepare for his audition to be the bands singer. He had never heard a Misfits song? That is enough to end this article right now having proven the very un-punk credentials of this organization. But, I think I'll continue on.

During my most recent perusal through the Conservative Punk site, one banner in particular caught my eye reading "Boycott Chinese Goods". I really wasn't sure what to expect when I clicked on it, but when I did I was greeted with some of the most backward advice I may have ever encountered.

According to the website, the reasons for boycotting "Chinese goods" given by Conservative Punk are:

- China's labor practices encourage outsourcing and drive down American wages. Aren't you tired of manufacturing jobs leaving the US?

- China has an atrocious human rights track record, including its illegal occupation of Tibet. This occupation has been marked by religious oppression of Tibet's proud Buddhist population, political imprisonment, torture and murder.

- China is a threat to regional stability, and threatens to crush peaceful Taiwan, if Taiwan ever sought independence.

- Why contribute to the rapid military buildup of a violent and abusive Communist regime?

These are all ostensibly true and good reasons to advocate not buying products produced in China. However, the porblem is that before listing the above reasons not to buy Chinese goods, Conservative Punk states; "some websites will encourage you to boycott companies based on the perceived political bend of their CEO (IE Buyblue.org), we at Conservativepunk feel that punishing workers because the suits might have made donations to political causes we might not like is not an intelligent use of the power of our dollar. Instead, we believe that our consumer power can be put to the best use through the boycott of Chinese goods."

So, according the Conservative Punk, we are not supposed to hold US corporations responsible for the outsourcing to China because we shouldn't "punish workers" due to the political bend of the CEO's? I'd like to know just who the hell Conservative Punk thinks is responsible for products being produced in China, if not the American corporations and their conservative political enablers?

Manufacturing jobs of all sorts are sent to China by the very CEO's Conservative Punk believes we should let off the hook. American companies set up shop in China and elsewhere in order to take advantage of the lack of labor and humanitarian law. These American companies are then able to ship these goods back, paying very little, or nothing, in the way of tariffs because of "free trade" deals championed by conservatives(some of which claim to be Democrats); then they sell these goods at retail shops all over the US at cheap prices, in turn generating enormous profits. Besides eliminating jobs American's could be doing to produce these goods, these American Companies then fight hard to beat down the few workers left in America who wish to organize their labor force, again with the aid of conservative politicians.

In other words, the American companies, and the conservative politicians in government are the ones responsible for Chinese goods that destroy the American work force and the American middle-class, and their political affiliations are completly relevant. Is Conservative Punk simply too stupid to realize that the American corporations and CEO's they oppose holding to account, are the very people most responsible for hurting the workers they claim to care so much about?

Conservative Punk telling people to boycott Chinese goods, while at the same time trying to excuse American corporations is almost as contradictory as the organizations name.

  • "Conservative Punk" is the ultimate contradiction
  • In reality there is no such thing as a conservative punk - but maybe a misguided punk
  • Conservative Punk's advice to boycott chinese goods makes no sense
Politics played large role in the break-up of American punk pioneers The Ramones - Johnny was a big time conservative and Joey was a lefty liberal.

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  • Nothingface4/29/2012

    Communism. Not punk,
    Socialism. Not punk.

    Thank You!

  • yomamaishot4/6/2011

    conservative punk is stupid as well as liberal punk. none of them fit the ideology of punk. its a state of mind and a lifestyle, not a trend. don't take sides of a political party. vote for an independent party

  • This Article1/3/2011

    is a piece of shit.

  • Cap n Murica12/1/2010

    conservatives are punk rock the same way that sarah palin is intelligent.

  • Liberal Democrats11/19/2010

    Started the Vietnam War. Conservative Republicans pulled out.

  • paul angelo10/28/2010

    @ Rubbish--sorry, one more note, before you try to pick it apart--I said anarchism falls on the left of the political spectrum, and what I mean is that most sects of anarchist thinking reflects what are considered lefty ideas and philosophy.

  • paul angelo10/28/2010

    @ Rubbish--Lastly, when did I ever say punk rock is about American mainstream, Democratic Party liberalism, as you seem to be insinuating? All I said is that conservatism is the absolute opposite of what punk rock generally stands for, and you naysayers don't have a leg to stand on when arguing against that. Read the famous conservative writers through the generations and you can clearly see that--Edmund Burke, and for us Americans, Russell Kirk. Conservatism is about rigid class structure and rule by wealthy elites, in order, in their minds, to keep order and stability. How on earth is that something we can call punk?

  • paul angelo10/28/2010

    @ Rubbish--If we were to place it on the political spectrum, Anarchism is certainly on the left. The Green Party that you mention in regard to Jello Biafra is also on the left of the political spectrum. Anyone who claims that The Clash wasn't espousing what is widely considered a left leaning philosophy in their music, just isn't being honest. Also, an isolated "conservative" punk musician here and there, doesn't speak for the genre as a whole, and as a whole, punk musicians are generally liberal minded, I think its safe to say.

  • Rubbish10/27/2010

    cont-

    it's the same as being a Democrat. Iggy Pop publicly sided with Republicans and endorsed Reagan in the 80s, till apparently he got turned off the religious right. Johnny Ramone? Outspoken Republican. You don't seem to know that much about the punk movement and the diverse personalities within it. Next time you write a diatribe full of predictable bullet points, try to be a little more informed about the topic in hand instead of making assumptions.

    On a side note, Green Day is NOT punk and shouldn't be mentioned as a modern day version of The Clash. Never has and never will have the same impact musically as The Clash. Rubbish!

  • Rubbish10/27/2010

    Paul do you know anything about punk music? You can say that conservatism and punk are a contradiction in terms... Well so is being a leftist and punk. Punk is about anarchy, being anti-establishment, anti-government. Not left or right. If members of "punk" bands choose to be liberals whatever, just don't make the mistake thinking that punk philosophy and liberalism are synonymous or go hand in hand. While The Clash were anti-nihilism, unlike a lot of their peers, they aren't exactly wholly punk and I would argue being a leftist here is a little different than being a leftist across the pond. They were against monarchy and aristocracy, which would make them anti-government and anti-politician over here, left and right. You mention The Sex Pistols... Funny cause Johnny Rotten has always been more right leaning and super critical of leftists. You mention Dead Kennedys... Well Jello Biafra is an Anarchist and a leader in the Green Party, and please don't try to tell me that it'

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