Drunk Pirates on Myspace Cannot Be Teachers

Ever Odessa
Apparently, pretending to be a drunk pirate only works magic for Johnny Depp in Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean. Where Johnny Depp found gold, Stacy Snyder lost a dream.

Stacy Snyder claims she was denied her teaching degree from Millersville University due to a photo of her, with the caption "drunken pirate", being discovered on the social networking site Myspace. The School of Education Dean, Jane S. Bray, apparently felt the photo was "promoting underage drinking"; and thus, denied her BS teaching degree and certificate. (The Seattle Times Company, April 28th 2007)

The photo itself is tame. It is a simple headshot of a girl drinking from a yellow plastic cup, wearing a pirates hat. Had Stacy Snyder not created the caption "drunken pirate" to go along with the photo, one could just as easily assume she was drinking Kool-Aid.

Stacy Snyder explained it was a Halloween photo taken a couple years prior and apologized for displaying the photo on Myspace. But apparently, that gesture was not enough to save her teaching career which she had not even had the chance to begin. She has since sued the school for monetary damages.

And I must say, I hope she wins.

Can you imagine having your career taken away from you based on one mistake? Unless a clearly stated rule has been broken, a crime has been committed, or a serious danger exists, it seems everyone deserves a second chance. ...Especially a student, who by definition is still in the process of learning.

If anything, perhaps Jane S. Bray and Millersville University failed Stacy Snyder by not teaching her the actual dangers of posting such photos on the internet?

According to papers filed from the lawsuit on the website The Smoking Gun, the Plaintiff Stacy Snyder contends Millersville University had no policy against posting personal photos on private websites, did not provide "specific sources of evidence or explanation to justify receiving unsatisfactory mark in professionalism", and did not provide evidence any students had seen the photo in question.

Whether one thinks it is wrong or not to pose drunk in a photo, I wonder how many people believe it is fair to be judged on your behavior outside of work (excluding criminal behavior)?

Moreover, should teachers be held to the same professional and ethical standards and consequences for behavior inside and outside the classroom? Should teachers essentially be expected to be Saints?

What's next at Millersville University and beyond anyways? Are college students or teachers who smoke in danger of being denied their careers for "promoting underage smoking"? Are college students or teachers who are seen drinking in public places at risk for losing their degree? What about other sorts of pictures; such as being photographed at a frat party, 21st birthday in Las Vegas, wearing a t-shirt with a controversial statement or logo, that wild spring break trip 4 years ago, or pictures someone else unknowingly took of you?

For that matter, does posting a silly picture with the caption "drunken pirate" on Myspace really qualify as "promoting underrage drinking"? I wonder if Stacy Snyder had posted a picture from the PG-13 film Pirates of the Caribbean of Johnny Depp drinking whiskey (a picture, by the way, that I have seen all over Myspace), would anyone be accusing her of promoting underage drinking and denying her the right to teach?

What do you think?

Sources:
The Seattle Times Company(
www.archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com)
The Smoking Gun (www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0426072pirate1.html)

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Ever Odessa is a destroyer of boredom, collector of facts, and lover of pop culture, depressing movies, brilliant people, and life in general.  View profile

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  • charlene wright10/4/2010

    i ddnt read it but i read the comments first and it sound great from what im hearing but if i read it and dont like it i swear im gonna have to cuse out evry1 who said it sound great and if you got a problem i live in toledo ohio and we can get down wheneva but if you already live in toledo i go woodward highschool im a freshman and we're new yaw dont kno wat we do so watch ya bac bra well amyway i bout to read it lol

  • Michael Roberts12/6/2008

    Hey. Saw this article and you should know that a ruling has been made on the teacher's appeal. Check it out - http://www.reputationdefenderblog.com/2008/12/05/update-teacher-fired-for-drunk-pirate-photo-loses-appeal/

  • Ever Odessa5/17/2007

    You could be right Chris

  • Ever Odessa5/17/2007

    Thanks for sharing your opinion Ron

  • Ever Odessa5/17/2007

    Thanks Jeanne

  • Chris5/7/2007

    Smells fishy to me. I was a teacher for years, my current business deals with teachers every day - from what I've heard, 99% of the time in these cases there's more to the story. Often it can't be published for privacy reasons.

    I think this was either the proverbial straw or the only thing the school could publish about the situation.

  • Ron Lester5/6/2007

    Hey ever, you brought up a great point. If they can target this woman for promoting underage drinking, how does America view Donald Trump's allowing Miss America to keep her crown? That wasn't the real point, it actually just struck me. My real point is a teacher, who smokes will have to definitely watch their backs. Hey, what about college backers? Aren't there college alumni that drank with their current Frat inductees? Just a thought, sorry!

  • Jeanne Marie Kerns5/6/2007

    Great write :-)

  • Ever Odessa5/6/2007

    Sorry you lost half your comment Jerry; wish there was a warning on how many characters are left so that wouldn't happen.

  • Ever Odessa5/6/2007

    Thanks for your comment Mike. The source I referenced said she was denied her BS degree & received a BA in Eng instead. Teachers do have a code of ethics, but this case seems rather extreme to me (of course there may be more to it as you suggest). It'll be interesting to see what else comes out of it later.

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