Clorox Formula 409 has been around a long time, and I've used it regularly. It works well on the stainless steel sinks as well as the bathtub and toilet. I've found that for burnt on grease on a stove top, if I spray it with 409 and let it sit for ten or fifteen minutes, I can wipe it up easily. I've never used it on dishes; I'm just not one to use a spray cleaner on dishes. I have used it on the bathroom floor, and it works great.
I've also used Easy Off Bam, both the De-greaser and the Grime, Lime and Soap Scum Remover, because they're cheaper than Formula 409. They work just as well. I've found the Grime, Lime and Soap Scum Remover can be used as a multi-purpose cleaner. It does no harm to the steel appliances or stainless steel sinks, and it leaves no residue or film on the counter tops. Since I no longer have carpeting, I can't comment on carpet stain removal, although, I know that 409 is safe for carpet and works well, so I assume the same for Bam.
Since I'm not a scientist, I don't know the exact ingredients in either Easy Off Bam or Formula 409, or any other household cleaner for that matter, unless of course it's a natural, homemade cleaner. I'm looking at both bottles now and 409 states "contains nonionic and cationic surfactants," whatever those are. Bam states, "contains sulfamic acid, but no phosphates." My limited recall from school on chemical names leads me to "assume" that sulfamic is related somewhat to sulfur, which as we all know, smells terrible.
Herein lies the distinct difference between Easy Off Bam and Formula 409 household cleaners. Bam just stinks. It stinks so badly that it tingles the nose hairs. This is not good. It actually hurts to work with Bam. If I'm bent over the tub spraying Bam, I'm bombarded with nauseating fumes, almost toxic fumes. To me, they are toxic, because I get an immediate headache and with prolonged exposure, I become nauseas.
Now, I'm not usually, easily sickened by chemical cleaners, for example, I use a half and half water to bleach combination to clean my Venetian blinds. I don some gloves but no mask, and I'm fine. Yes, the blind cleaning is done in the yard or basement where there is extensive ventilation, but one would think that this much ventilation would not be needed to scrub your bathtub. I could understand if I were a person who is sensitive to chemical cleaners, but I am not.
Must I open all the windows and doors to clean my bathroom or stove top with either Bam product? I haven't tried it, and I probably won't. The reason I have both Easy Off Bam and Clorox Formula 409 bottles to view is because I no longer use the bottle of Bam. I went out and bought the bottle of 409 so I could clean my toilet, my tub, my kitchen appliances, counter-top and sink without becoming ill.
For me, the few cents difference in price between Easy Off Bam and Clorox Formula 409 just wasn't worth the discomfort in using Bam. Possibly, I'm just sensitive to a particular chemical in Bam (sulfamic acid) that isn't in 409, and others may not be sensitive to that chemical, so it may be worth giving Bam a try if you're cost conscious. If not, since they both work well, I'd avoid Bam and stick with 409. Save the noses of the world.
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Donna Kiser is mother of three, grandmother of six, and a corporate refugee since 2001. She holds a BA in Cultural Studies with a minor in Creative Non Fiction from Columbia College Chicago and is currently... View profile
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Aren't you supposed to open all your windows and doors when working with bathroom chemicals, anyway?
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Please, people, read the instructions!! I can't believe the mindlessness involved by those using these incredibly toxic cleaners! Of course they are toxic! They eat scum and grime and grease!! Of course you shouldn't breathe it into your lungs! Of course you should wear rubber gloves and ventilate as much as possible -- and if you can't, yes! Wear a mask! Have we really become so "dumbed down" that there is no independent thought to survival intact?!!
WHILE CLEANING THE TOILET WITH YOUR PRODUCT, I FILLED THE CAP FULL AND I ACCIDENTLY INHALED THE POWDER AS I WAS POURING INTO THE TOILET, AND IT CAUSED A SORE IN MY MOUTH. I HAD TO GO TO THE DOCTOR TO GET MEDICATION FOR IT. THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS AND PLAN TO NEVER BUY THIS AGAIN. A WARNING SHOULD BE MORE CLEAR AND PEOPLE SHOULD BE MORE CAREFUL IN WORKING WITH IT. SHOULD NEED A MASK WHEN USING IT.