GoDaddy Hosting Lays Down for MySpace.com: Looking Out or Brown Nosing?
MySpace Against the World
Well, needless to say GoDaddy took the site offline, right away! They claim that they tried to contact the company, to warn them or to request they take this information off the site, but didn't receive any notice from them. Acting fast is an understatement, but for the individuals who's personal info was listed online, I don't think it could have been fast enough.
GoDaddy.com has a 24 hour abuse system, that removes any illegal or child porn information as soon as possible. According to GoDaddy's general counsel, Christina Jones,
"We're not here to allow people to put illegal content on the Internet," she said. "We take this safety and the security of the Internet very seriously...We take our responsibility pretty seriously. We're the largest registrar in the world."
They are, they offer great prices, great service and incredible features for hosting and domain services. But, this issue has still come to a head regarding freedom of speech, which they're getting some pretty hard hits about. But, what about Seclists.org obligation to making sure OUR personal info doesn't get blasted all over their website for public use? No comment there, eh?
When it comes to the internet and big conglomerates (ahem...Myspace.com) the public is first to take the underdog under their wing, and bash the million dollar corporations. But, these big bad conglomerates wouldn't have gotten so far keeping their client's personal info, passwords, etc. over the internet where it shouldn't be visible. They censor that crap, as they should! I for one, say THANK YOU Godaddy.com for looking out for the little people! Every MySpace user should too.
Screw Seclists.com, you should higher an internet security employee from MySpace to make sure you don't post our personal, highly secure information on your website. Obviously you aren't capable or maybe you just don't understand internet law. NEXT time you'll be in for LAWSUIT. You should be thanking GoDaddy.com for that too.
Also, while I'm on it, I get this info from CNETNEWS.COM, and a few other news sites. CNET posted this comment as a last little tidbit, attempting a clever retort to GoDaddy's actions:
"When asked if GoDaddy would remove the registration for a news site like CNET News.com, if a reader posted illegal information in a discussion forum and editors could not be immediately reached over a holiday, Jones replied: 'I don't know...It's a case-by-case basis.'"
I like CNET news, they have some great covers of technology news, but guess what? I don't like being jerked around, and treated like I'm dumb enough to buy your crowd pleasing tripe. As if I couldn't possibly think for myself and know that whether or not its MySpace.com against the world, I can't find the wrong in a hosting company taking illegal info off the web.
I hope Seclists.com posts all your personal info over the web (CNET), including passwords, financial accounts, etc. And, maybe the new hippie hosting company they hire won't have enough rocks to take it off the web. After all, Freedom of speech...Deal with it.
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7 Comments
Post a CommentNikki, You state above:
"If there was a more intelligent way of handling this...Please, tell me. Because I cannot imagine an intelligent response that wouldn't involve taking the site off the web."
Okay, try this one: How about MySpace try to contact SecLists.Org to request the post be deleted so that the entire site doesn't have to go down? His contact info is publicly available right there on the website. They tried exactly zero times to contact Mr. Lyon, and instead went straight to the registrar. They didn't even contact his upstream ISP/hosting company, who obviously has good contact info for him since he pays his bills every month. Or, maybe GoDaddy could give him more than 52 seconds to respond to the VM before they shut the domain down, or maybe mention what the cause for the shutdown is, or, once he DID contact them, maybe not tell him it's going to be several days before he can expect a response to even tell him WHY the site was suspended so that he could take the cont
Really? Sounds like a bunch of BS to me...Exactly which sites are still have this information up? Speculation? Blatant lie? You don't know what MySpace did to further extend the security measures, the only part we read about was the shutting down of Seclists.org. Maybe they did contact the users and change their passwords. We can definitely agree that one other fact remains in all of this: There haven't been any new headline stories about MySpace users having their sites hacked. Obviously they've done something right.
Its worth clarifying with respect to the different timeframes mentioned in the post below that those passwords were disclosed on that mailing list on Jan 15th and were (and still are) widely available on a number of sites. MySpace had GoDaddy shut down SecLists on Jan 24th.
1. Myspace wasn't protecting anyone by shutting down seclists. These passwords have been compromised. Taking them off this website doesn't put the cat back in bag. They need to invalidate all of them and inform the users via email and give them a process for getting back into their accounts. That whole process can be automated in a few hours starting from scratch. Myspace is protecting their public image here, not anyone's security.
2. GoDaddy could have given the administrator of seclists an opportunity to remove the content before shutting the site down. If they were going to shut it down, they could have provided telephone contact information for their abuse department, and they could have immediately informed seclists WHY they were turning it off. Many hours passed between the time when GoDaddy contacted seclists to inform them that they were shutting the site down and the time when Godaddy explained why and agreed to discuss it. That is extremely irresponsible.
Because they aren't as popular or powerful as MySpace? Because poor them, they didn't have the resources to realize that there was ILLEGAL info on their site? If there was a more intelligent way of handling this...Please, tell me. Because I cannot imagine an intelligent response that wouldn't involve taking the site off the web.
They're not going to take down just any site they wish. That is an irrational and extremist in theory at the least. Granted, taking the entire site of the web as quick as they did was rash. But, can we not agree that this is a unique situation? MySpace has the personal information of people all over the World, mostly teenagers...I think a rash response to this security breach was in order. They took down a site because they had the personal and highly secure information from a website that everyone and their brother uses. Meaning, the secure information on this site, is sensitive. I don't understand why it is GoDaddy and MySpace who are at fault, when THEY are the ones who discovered this information was leaked onto Seclists!! MySpace doesn't have adequate security, yet they found information on someone else's website before the owners even knew about it? Why is it, that Seclists.org is played out as some kind of victim in this situation? Because they aren't as popular or powerful as M
Screw Seclists.com, you should higher an internet security employee from MySpace to make sure you don't post our personal, highly secure information on your website.
MySpace security personnel could certainly get all the "higher-ing" they can get. Maybe if they had adequate security in the first place they wouldn't need a scapegoat and a cat's paw. GoDaddy might have concerns with the legality of material registered with it, however not working with their customers (who are often victims of abuse themselves) is not exactly constructive
and can pose as a DoS threat in and of itself. Hackers who target sites registered with GoDaddy can now work much more effectively than ever because GoDaddy will help the hacker take down any site they wish. Cooperating with the customer in a reasonable way would be a more intelligent way of handling a problem like this.