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Ground Zero Mosque Debate Shows No Sign of Going Away

It's All About Location, Location, Location

Tim Baker
My religious education has been a speckled one, to say the least.

As a young child, I was raised Irish Catholic. Church on Sunday, Communion, Confession, Confirmation and religious education classes (commonly referred to as either C.C.D. or just Catachism) one night a week.

By the time I was 10 or 11, we had stopped going to church. One of my friends belonged to a small church of indeterminate faith and they did lots of fun stuff so I asked my mother if I could go to his church. This also included Vacation Bible School and day camp in the summer.

In my teens, Mom decided to switch over to the Presbyterian side of the street. Why? I don't know, but from then on it was Church and Sunday School every week as well as week-long summer camps.

After high school, I decided I had had enough religion so I made the executive decision to forego any further formal training. Instead I began reading books about various religions and faiths around the world.

Eventually, in my thirties, I decided that there was insufficient data to convince me of the existence of God - so I proclaimed myself an Agnostic.

The thing I like most about being Agnostic is the fact that I can look objectively at the way other religious types act. Sort of the way it's fun to go to a party and remain sober while everybody else gets drunk, it's almost always entertaining.

Case in point - the recent brou-ha-ha over the proposed Mosque near the site of the Twin Towers in New York City.

My position on the Mosque? I don't think the decision to use that particular site was very well thought out. If the Muslim community really wanted to cultivate a spirit of understanding they should probably understand that what they are proposing is being interpreted as a gross display of disrespect.

That being said - I'm really getting a kick out of some of the reactions I've observed from people of faith...

This topic has become the hot blog topic of the month, possibly the year. I can't even count the number of postings I've seen on Facebook from scripture quoting believers about the Mosque-everything from disapproval to hatred, and in a couple of instances, vicious retaliation.

My question - as an Agnostic - is "What would Jesus do?"

My religious training always told me that Jesus was a very understanding guy. Live and let live, turn the other cheek, do unto others...all that stuff.

What I'm seeing now is people spouting hatred and revenge in Jesus' name, saying the Bible gives them the okay to play judge, jury and executioner.
Whatever happened to; "Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord." To the contrary, "if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head." Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good"Romans 12:19-21
Similarly - if I remember my U.S. history...one of the fundamental concepts behind the founding of this great nation was "Freedom of Religion." Every person in this country has the right to practice their chosen faith as he/she sees fit.
Being opposed to the location of this Mosque is understandable, but hate-filled protests and anti-Muslim campaigns are the absolute wrong way to voice that disapproval.
Islam is a religion - just like Catholicism, Buddhism and Wicca.
Is it true that some Islamic people are terrorist whack jobs? Sure it is.
Adolph Hitler was raised Catholic, so was Timothy McVeigh...but their lunatic actions were not standard behavior for all Catholics.
This country has been trying to shed the reputation of bigotry and racial prejudice for the better part of a century now - blaming the entire Muslim community for the actions of a group of radicals sets that effort back fifty years.
Putting this Mosque so close to Ground Zero is a bad idea - there is little debate about that - but trying to change that decision by hate-filled protests and vows of revenge will not work.
Religion is a two way street, if you want them to respect yours...you must respect theirs. Your religious views are no more right, or wrong, than theirs - so in the name of religion...
Practice what you preach.

Published by Tim Baker

Tim Baker was born and raised in Warwick, Rhode Island. After graduating from The Wentworth Institute of Technology in 1980 he embarked on a career in Architecture and Engineering. Along the way he has also...  View profile

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  • Mishka Zakharin9/29/2010

    It sounds as if we had a fairly compable "spiritual journey" in life... so I guess I'm surpised that you disagree with the site for the Mosque. (For the record, I don't agree or disagree--it's just a place...) For one thing, as you point out, Hitler and Nazi Germany thought themselves a Christian society--the Spanish Inquisition is another good example--but I wouldn't pin all that onto "mainstream" Christianity. And I can't blame extremist terrorism on "mainstream" Islam. Besides (so I've heard) the Mosque is intended to be a religious center that also features places of worship to a variety of denominations. Maybe people should look at this as an opportunity to mend fences between Christianity, Judaism, and Islam... if such a thing is even possible.

  • Shelly Barclay8/17/2010

    I found this through digg when a similar article of mine was posted there. I have to agree with you. Thank you for keeping a level head and not being one of those embarrassing Americans. :)

  • Debbie Gavazzi8/17/2010

    Well written

  • Kathrine Lloyd8/17/2010

    Hatred is not the answer. People can't have the constitution only represent their personal rights and not the rights of others. It may be in poor taste, but all of us are protected by the constitution, not just one religious group.

  • Lance8/17/2010

    Tim, Very well put. I'm going to submit to Digg.Com; hope it helps :-)

  • David A. Reinstein, LCSW8/17/2010

    If ever there was a hot-potato issue, this would be it! Whatever is decided will please some and enrage others... it is a lose-lose dilemma.

  • Tango Whiskey8/17/2010

    Tim, you are right about this. The New York Muslim community have shown a staggering insensitivity in selecting this site for their new mosque.
    I'm sure they could have just said to the people who oppose their plans; "we own the site, but if you'd like to take it off our hands at a fair market price, we'll be happy to oblige". That way, they'd have cash in hand to build elsewhere in New York.
    On the other hand, I don't really expect too much in the way of common sense from believers of an invisible being who lives in the sky ...

  • Faye Fairley8/17/2010

    very well done

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