Let's Talk About Pep Takes on Online Dating and Sex
Should You Have Sex with Someone You've Met Online?
After going back to Pepa's home, where Kittie is a temporary roommate, Kittie changed into a bra and panty set, proceeded to straddle her date and he refused to take his shirt off or have sex with her. He made a joke about not being able to open the Christmas gift before Christmas, and he asked her why would she think they'd have sex if this was his first time meeting her. Now I commended the brotha for holding off on sexing her as soon as he met her. But I keep reading on these forums on VH1 and Facebook that he must be gay or married. I completely disagree.
Now I can't sign on the dotted line that this guy is not married, but why does he have to be gay because he didn't want to have sex with her? One of my favorite lines from rapper Joe Budden's "U Ain't Gotta Go Home" is, "Treat the p---y like it's worth something, don't just go throwing it at me." I honestly don't think this date would've gone like it did had Kittie not acted so easy.
Yes, the two of them have "known" each other for three years and spoken on the phone, but talking to someone on the phone is just not the same as meeting them in person. Trust me. I know. I was very much a fan of the online dating scene, but after meeting seven different men that I'd met online, I realized quickly that I did not have the same connection with them after physically meeting them. I had a few Online Dating Nightmares and then a complete disappointment in who I thought was a winner but turned out to be the most arrogant guy I'd ever dated. But even if these guys turned out to be great, I really just think one-night stands or first-date sex are a terrible idea.
I read a comment on a Facebook forum asking whether women would feel comfortable having sex with a man after chatting with him for three years. Some said yes. Some said no. But one woman commented on the women saying no by stating, "I feel like women always try to say the 'right' 'politically correct' answer...when phone is all you have, you're forced to really get to know a person, and if I can confirm all that we've talked about over the phone for three years seems to be inline with who I see before me, damn skippy I'm going in!" Now I'm not quoting the sista who stated that to knock her. But I will say that black women are the highest cases of new HIV positive patients. We definitely need to be choosier with who we lay down with.
But even if Kittie had condoms, I still am not willing to believe that someone "knows" someone by talking to them via phone but never meeting them in person. There are things you will see about a person in person that you just won't notice on their free time chatting it up on a landline. I've had friends for years and gone on one vacation with them. I ended up looking at them like, "Who are you and what'd you do with my friend?" If you ever really want to know a person, travel with him or her or move in together. That's when you meet the real person, not just sitting on the phone talking dirty.
I think it's a shame that we commend women for holding out for sex, but assume the guy must be gay for being turned off by a woman being loose. Pepa said she hasn't had sex in four years, and I haven't heard one negative comment on the forums. She's turned down a couple of guys who wined and dined her, and spent beacoup bucks. But a guy who goes on one date to the park and goes back to a woman's apartment must be homosexual for turning her down? How come he couldn't just be turned off by her promiscuous attitude?
With that logic, a guy is never allowed to turn down any woman for sex and must sleep with everybody just so he can keep his manhood intact. How insecure (and dangerous) is that?
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6 Comments
Post a CommentSee, and that's a primary example of what happens when you throw it out there too fast. A man will be interested for that moment and then throw up the deuces. On my latest ChicagoNow.com blog, I shared the relevant lyrics to that Joe Budden rhyme (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/message-from-montie/2010/01/vh1-lets-talk-about-pep-topic-if-the-guy-turns-down-sex-is-he-gay.html). It's the truth. I have yet to meet a man who just loves to wife (or even take seriously) a woman who's just throwing herself at him. She could've at least gone on a few dates or something. I know phone sex had her imagination running, but it was still a first date.
By the way we slowly parted ways after that night. I couldn't trust that.
I totally agree with you Monti. I have had that experience before where I met someone through a friend and all we did was talk on the phone for about 6 months (she lived in Greensboro NC and I was in Raleigh). When we finally did meet up after a few hours she was really trying to get it in. But this was our first time meeting. I don't think that he is gay for turning it down(although I didn't) but you have to understand this one concept if she is throwing it to you that easy then how many other people has she thrown it to on the first night.
Thanks for responding, all. I listened to Joe Budden's CD today (I hadn't heard it in about a year) and 50% of that particular song "U Ain't Gotta Go Home" was about a woman who came on too strong, to respect herself, and how the guy would wonder if she was doing the same thing or falling for the same lines from someone else. The lyrics are a little too graphic to post, but it's so true.
Came on too strong I agree with Ayanna.
Neato! I like your perspective on that whole situation. I tend to agree. A man doesn't have to be gay just because he makes the decision not to have sex. I too, think that he was simply turned off by her aggressive nature. He seemed to enjoy what he saw at first; the energy went downhill the more she "pushed." Nice write up!