Merging the House and Senate Bills so Healthcare Will Move Foreword
There Are Lots of Issues to Work Out to Get a Barack Obama Victory
What will happen now is more of that pathetic Majority Leader Harry Reid's back room deals like he cut for Mary Landrieu's "Second Louisiana Purchase" and Ben Nelson's "Cornhusker Kickback". He will do whatever he can to force everyone to accept a bill that will hand Obama a win. Seems no one cares about the American people, but giving him a win. That should be what they think is a win, because I think the house and senate will be much more conservative because of this. The democrats are running "Chicago style politics at their worst" and Obama is being mum on it. I hope the voters remember his promises of "bi-partisanship" when the election time rolls around.
The House of Representatives and Senate have both passed very different bills with little wiggle room to spare. The House vote had one Republican supporter and several Democrats vote against it in a 220-215 vote. The bill only passed by 2 votes. In the Senate it was passed strictly on party lines. There are various differences in the bill. There are quite a few issues that need to be resolved for passage. The first is whether or not there should be a public option. The bill passed by the House has a public option like program in it while the Senate plan does not but has exchanges that people can shop at and compared. Most liberals want a public option and have threatened to vote against a final bill without it and many moderate Democrats in both chambers have said they will not vote for the bill if it is in there. Joe Lieberman, Blanche Lincoln, and Ben Nelson have previously they will join a Republican filibuster if a public option is in the final bill. Here we have what they call an impasse. It is very important to note that Lincoln. Landrieu, and Nelson are all in states that not only voted against Obama in the election, but they all were opposed to the healthcare overhaul in general. Derailing the final bill might be the way one or two of them save their political careers.
In addition to the public option abortion is also a very divisive issue over Obamacare. In all fairness I think that abortion really gets too much involvement in politics. I am pro life and think abortion is morally wrong except in extreme cases. That does not mean that I would vote for a moron just because they are pro life over someone who knows what they are doing and is pro choice. I don't think the same can be said for many in the pro choice crowd though. I think many of those femi-nazis would vote a man like Adolph Hitler into office as long as they could be dodge responsibility.
The heart of the abortion issue with the health care bill is whether or not federal subsidies should be able to be used to pay for abortions. Currently they are not allowed to be and the various compromises are supposed to insure that they will not be in the future. The problem is with all the money that will be coming into the program it is challenging to insure it is separated. Abortion is an elective procedure and as such I don't think federal money should be used period. Again there are liberals who say they will not vote for the bill with some of the compromises that are in it currently and there are moderates in the Democratic Party who will not support the bill if they are removed. Ben "the price is right" Nelson of Nebraska actually said he would not support the bill that passed the senate without strict rules against public money for abortions. He lied and did support the bill for the free Medicaid for his state for life while the other 49 have to pay their fair share.
Like the public option the abortion issue is very different in both chambers of Congress. The House of Representatives had the Stupak-Pitts Amendment from Rep. Bart Stupek (D-MI) and Joe Pitts ( R-PA) are the namesakes behind the amendment. It is very strict in that it bars any federal money from covering abortions and any plan that receives federal money from covering abortions even if a separate premium is paid for the coverage. Critics argue that the bill goes too far in the pro life realm. Proponents believe that without it all you are dealing with an accounting scheme without it that basically tries to separate public from private money for the premiums. The amendment insures any health plan that receives public money can't cover the abortion so there is not issue they believed. There are exceptions for rape, health concerns, and incest.
The Senate bill does not go anywhere near as far. Ben Nelson ( D-NE) tried to put an amendment to the bill that would have the same affect as the Stupek-Pitts Amendment but it was defeated with a couple democrats voting for it and two republicans voting against it. As mentioned earlier Nelson said that strict abortion restriction language had to be in the final bill for his support. Unfortunately he sold out the lives of the unborn for 30 shekels of silver similar to Judas. Nelson is really the only one that potentially could defect from the Democratic Party over abortion in the senate. The house is were the dropping of the Stupek-Pitts Amendment could result in the bill not passing the chamber and thus being defeated.
The issue of how national healthcare will affect illegal aliens is also fairly contentious. In case you don't know there was a joint session of Congress in September 2009. Barack Obama stated that "this bill will not cover those who are here illegally" to which Rep. Joe Wilson ( R-SC) shouted "you lie". The reality is neither bill directly covers the illegal vermin that invade this country for handouts, but any child they have here gets citizenship under a faulty interpretation of the 14th amendment. I am sure the framers never planned on people invading our country and then their droppings being rewarded for their criminal activity with citizenship. There are many ways that illegal aliens can get coverage they are not supposed to have. The House plan has checks in place to insure this does not happen. This occurred after Rep. Wilson told Obama "you lie". The senate bill has not such checks and balances. This again could derail things in the House. Many moderate democrats, or so called Blue dogs, will need to insure that illegals don't get coverage they do not deserve to keep constituents at home happy. Many of them are from very anti Obama areas. Personally I think people who support illegal immigrants are traitors and I hold democrats or republicans as such who do this. I think we need to stop birthright citizenship and deport them after one year of hard labor building the fence along the border.
Far be it from Barack Hussein Obama or his liberal allies to care about what the American people they represent think, but it would be nice since they represent us. Here are some various opinion polls on these various issues. In the case of using public funds for abortions Americans reject using public funds for abortions with 56% opposed to using public funds for abortions according to a CBS new poll from November 2009. The American people are also very against illegal immigration and giving benefits to such. Another poll in November 2009 by Angus Reid Global Monitor also found that 54% of Americans support barring plans that receive federal subsidies for plans covering abortions. That poll also held that 46% of Democrats also did not want money used for plans that provide abortions. Still another poll by CNN the same month found that 51% of the respondents believe that women seeking abortions should pay the entire cost themselves. I am of that opinion as well with rape and medical necessity being the exceptions.
With regard to public opinion or the issue of illegal immigration generally feeling vary. Americans do not support illegal immigrants. Many polls that are close factor in Latinos
(the largest group of illegal immigrants) who were once anchor babies that see nothing wrong with it. They view our country as a piggy bank that cockroaches can sneak into our country to use our resources. A Pulse Opinion poll in September 2009 found that 53% oppose illegals having access to healthcare. Roughly half of all Americans favor ending birthright citizenship for children of illegal aliens and many who support it again are from undesirable groups who think the government is a piggy bank anyway. These are issues that not on. Now the public option actually does have the public support CBS has found that in December 59% of Americans favor a public option. This is human nature as most people want something for nothing. The real problem for Obama and the democrats is that America has always had a negative view of Obamacare. In two polls in December showed that 46% favored the plan and 48% opposed it (Rasmussen). This is about the closest that I have seen. A Quinnipiac University poll right before it steamrolled through the Senate found that 53% were opposed and only 36% favored the plan. These polls that show Obama having an approval rating of 48% does not help and many states with Democratic Senators coming up for re-election have even more negative opinions of him.
I think both bills will probably get reconciled by more "Chicago Style politics". The real fight will be the house because they are all up for election in 2010 and for many standing with Obama amounts to losing the election. In the senate there are many democrats vulnerable, but the only one that probably will lose her job over healthcare in 2010 is Blanche Lincoln or Arkansas. She could pull it out but the state is very anti-Obama in general and her popularity seems to be going down. It also does not help that Obama and Congress have been thumbing their noses at America by pushing this foreword despite staunch public sentiment against it. That is pretty tough to do and get elected. Now there are some groups who will mindlessly follow Obama, but many groups who supported him are waking up and realizing the cost of him being in office. I was watching Senate coverage and one republican senator (I think it was Mitch McConnell) said the American people are shouting stop and no about the healthcare bill. Majority Leader Harry Reid has said that people will like it once they see how good it is. That basically is saying they know what is good for us and our opinions don't matter. It also does not consider that taxes start right away but hardly any benefits except a couple measures regarding children with pre-existing conditions don't take effect until 2014.
I don't think a public option will make it in the final bill and I do believe that enough strict abortion language will be in it that the bill will win or lose by a couple votes and Obama will probably twist some arms to get a vote. Many in the Democratic Party are already realizing that standing with Obama will cost them their jobs. Bush helped Obama get into office, but he was more popular in his first year than Obama. I don't think the bill is good for America as is and I hope it gets killed. If it does pass Obama will claim victory but the political losses his party will suffer makes that pretty stupid. It is also worth noting that since the bill requires people to buy insurance even if they don't need it and has state specific deals like that of Florida, Nebraska, and Louisiana at the expense of other states, there is a possibility the bill is unconstitutional.
God Help and Bless America and save us from this socialist.
How is that change working out for everyone?
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