NCO Financial Systems, Incorporated: Are Illegal Debt Collection Practices Too Common?

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Have you heard of NCO Financial Systems Incorporated? If not, you definitely need to know about them. This is a collection agency that plays dirty pool. Really, really dirty pool.

I first became aware of NCO Financial Systems when I began receiving voicemails from them about two weeks ago. The voicemails simply stated that so-and-so was calling from NCO, that it is an attempt to collect a debt, and to call a certain phone number with the specified confirmation code.

I thought this was odd, since they didn't even state who they were looking for and I have no accounts in collections. I even checked my credit report and I was right - all accounts are listed "paid as agreed".

So I decided to find out what I could about NCO Financial Systems Incorporated before returning their calls. As it turns out, I am glad I did not answer the phone.

According to many thousands of complaints listed on www.budhibbs.com, www.ripoffreport.com, and even www.bbb.org (the Better Business Bureau's website), NCO violates collection laws right and left. The BBB has about 150 complaints listed, the Bud Hibbs has many pages of consumer comments, and Rip Off Report has a few thousand NCO complaints listed.

To sum up the typical consumer experience with this collection agency is difficult. Not everyone has had the same experience with NCO Financial Systems Incorporated, but far too many have been harassed by this collection agency.

Let's start with the phone calls. Many customers have had NCO call them before 8:00 a.m. or after 9:00 p.m. local time. This is prohibited by the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. Many customers have also been called at work, even after telling the NCO representative they are not allowed to receive personal or collection calls at work. This is also illegal. Collection agencies are not allowed to call you at work if you have notified them that you aren't allowed to take their calls at work.

Collection agencies are prohibited from harassing consumers. Harassment is defined by the FDCP Act as threat or use of violence, use of obscene language, or using the phone to intentionally annoy someone (which includes repeated rings/calls). Far too many consumers have been screamed at by NCO representatives. Many others have received numerous phone calls. By numerous, I mean about 100 calls in one month.

Many times people cannot even get NCO to verify the debt they're collecting. Other times, they discover that NCO is collecting a debt past the statute of limitations in their state or a debt that has been paid to the original creditor. Why on earth should you give your money to a company that doesn't have a valid reason to take money from you?

This brings me to my next point. The Fair Debt Collection Practices Act also stipulates that collection agencies must verify your debt. Unless they verify the debt in an initial phone call, written verification must be sent within five days. The verification must include the original amount of debt, original creditor you owed the money to, and your rights to dispute. Many people never received this verification from NCO. Again, why should you pay a company money if they can't prove you actually owe them money?

Consumers should also know they have the right to ask collection companies to not call them. The collection agency may still call ONLY to notify you they are stopping collection action against you or taking special remedy. Many consumers have sent letters via certified mail to NCO Financial Systems, telling them they must cease phone calls in accordance with law. The letters are usually sent certified, and a certified return receipt is usually not sent back to the consumers. And guess what? The phone calls still do not stop. This is true of consumers who may have a debt, and consumers who have no past due accounts and are not the individual being sought by NCO.

After reading through the complaints for a few hours, I have come to a few conclusions. First, you need to know the law. Read the Fair Debt Collection Act. Know your rights. Secondly, communicate with them by mail whenever possible (assuming they ever send you anything). In case of a dispute, written communication proves your points much more than verbal agreements. Also, keep track of when they call, and who, if anyone, you talk to.

If you need more assistance in dealing with NCO Financial Systems Incorporated, look at the sites I've mentioned. They're listed below, too. Learn from other people who have been scammed, and how they fought back. You could literally spend hours reading the complaints. It may even keep you up at night. These discussions make for frightening reading but I suggest you read through some anyway.

If you have had an encounter with this collection agency and they violated the law, complain. If the Federal Trade Commission received a complaint from each of the thousands negatively affected by this company, maybe something will finally be done.

The address listed for NCO, which also goes by the name of NCO Group Inc, can be found at www.ncogroup.com. Their contact info, as well as an online feedback form, can be found here.

Sources:
http://www.baltimore.bbb.org/commonreport.html?bid=20014093
http://www.budhibbs.com/debtcollectorpages/nco_financial_systems_cmts.htm
www.ripoffreport.com
http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/fdcpact.htm

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  • Many people have been harrased by NCO, despite the fact this is illegal.
  • Many have received repeated collection attempts despite the fact NCO can't or won't verify the debt.
  • Overall, this company is very shady and you should be cautious in dealing with them.
Be careful if this company calls you. Some people have received calls from NCO reps, demanding a social security number or bank account number. Meanwhile, the consumer has no idea who they're talking to.

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  • Michelle5/12/2012

    If people are getting calls from NCO more than once a week, unless you tell them they can call you back, then who you are dealing with is NOT NCO!!! You would then be correct, that is illegal! NCO Financial Systems is the only collection company that trains ALL of their employees on ALL the HIPAA and FDCPA laws every 6 months. The new employees go thru two weeks of 8 hour a day classes that teach more about HIPAA and FDCPA, than I ever learned from any other company I have collected for in the 10 years I have been a Medical Collector. This is a wonderful company and they will work with you if you work with them. However, just because you don't talk to them that bill you owe is not going to go away and it will go on your credit report eventually!!!

  • Leslie5/5/2012

    These people have been calling me anywhere from 5-10 times per day. They call at all hours of the day and night. I don't have any outstanding bills, and if I did shouldn't I have received something in the mail before I started getting phone calls from a collection agency. Most of the time they don't leave a message, and when they do, I try to call back, but the number isn't valid. I have tried blocking the number, but then they just call from another number. :(

  • Ariana5/4/2012

    I actually work for NCO financial systems and it is NOT a scam. NCO does practice the proper FDCPA laws as it is required for us to pass the FDCPA test by 98% before we being collecting. Our call may be monitored or recorded to ensure that we are following proper procedures. Please understand this as this is a company I represent and know that people there value their jobs and do want to help people out by getting them one step closer to financial freedom.

  • Missy5/2/2012

    I have multiple accounts with this agency due to not paying my bills. I didn't have insurance & my disability payments hadn't started yet. I now have medical bills from having fast & aggressive cancer. I know NCO is a legitimate corporation but I will say that some of their collectors do use some less than tasteful tactics. I too have blocked them because I do not care to be degraded while I'm trying to recover. My recommendation is always have things in writing CMRRR but if they are not returning the green cards then that poses a problem. I worked at a collection agency before working for a collections attorney & while there are rules in place some collectors think they are above reproach. You can ask to have someone else work your file that you can work with. My prayers are with all of you that you can get the means to pay what you owe & NCO to dismiss things that won't make or break them in order to help their fellow man.

  • donald dixon5/13/2011

    They have called me for years. I have told them I am not the lady they are looking for but continue calling. I blocked their number but it still shows on my caller ID atleast 4 times a week. I read a thread about a guy calling people dead beats and defending the company. I bet you are a ugly, stupid, little penis jerkoff.

  • Phil4/4/2011

    This company has been calling me for several years. I have repeatedly called back and requested any legal proof which they have in their possession which establishes that I legally owe them anything. The calls stop for several months, then start again daily until I call back and make the same request. The debt was settled more than a decade ago with the original creditor and written off as it had been taken out fraudulently. They do not care. They simply want what they want and use automated calls to attempt to harass these people into paying them.

  • Kathleen4/4/2011

    Today I reached a person (who spoke a mumbling English). He asked what number I was calling about, which was my current cell phone and the number was formerly held by the person with a debt, an Enrique .... He said they would remove the number and I would not get more calls from them about this debt. Problem solved but frustrating that they harassed me about someone else's debt.
    Background: NCO has phoned me 3 or 4 times in the past few weeks. I tried to return the call and was put into a message box that was full. I tried to return the message again today and got through.

  • mtl3/5/2011

    This company just gave out my SS# to my EX husband over the phone to verify my debt. Is this illegal?

  • Ronald Holden1/25/2011

    Outrageous official-looking letter to my freind's business purporting to be collecting on behalf of City of Seattle.

  • GAYLE1/4/2011

    MY MOTHER IS IN A NURSING HOME, AND NCO IS HARRASING "ME" FOR A $60,000 HOSPITAL BILL MY MOTHER WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO PAY IN A MILLION YEARS. NOW THEY ARE CALLING "MY WORK" LOOKING FOR HER. UNSCRUPULOUS!!!!!

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