Not All Debt Collection Agencies Are Honest

NCO Financial Systems, Inc. An Example of a Fraudulent Collection Agency

Melanie Neer
I think most of us, somewhere along the line, have had to deal with debt collection agencies, and it's never a pleasant experience, to say the least. Some are honest and legitimate ones, but nonetheless almost all use some form of scare tactics to make a person pay an old, outstanding debt. The scare tactics used can be from receiving repeated and constant letters or almost daily phone calls reminding a person of a old, past-due debt, whether it be from a credit card company, a loan, and so forth and can be for a seemingly small amount to larger debts ranging in the thousands. In a few cases, if a person ignores these debt collection agencies, sooner or later, a person might suddenly find themselves getting a summons to appear at court for some kind of legal settlement.

Both my now deceased mother and I have had a number of run-ins with these debt collection agencies. Prior to my mother's death, she had amassed a total debt over $25,000. Being that she was on a fixed income of only receiving a small monthly pension and Social Security benefit, there was no way my mother could have paid off these debts, neither did she have the funds to declare bankruptcy. She did at one time, consult a financial adviser who took her care of her case and sent out letters to all the debt collection agencies involved in trying to retrieve the old debts. This seemed to help the situation a bit, but not entirely, as my mother was soon hounded again by these debt collector's, and they were never the same agencies. It seems another tactic of debt collectors is to bounce the old debt around, first with one agency, then submit it to another, then yet another again. This went on for years, and each time my mother kept getting letters and/or phone calls from these debt collectors. Each time she received another letter, I wrote letters back to them, explaining the situation and referred them to the financial adviser she had contacted for further reference in the matter, however, they still hounded her.

Then my mother passed away leaving those debts unresolved and unpaid for. Fortunately as I had no legal obligation whatsoever to pay those debts back myself, and truth be told, I couldn't have done so myself anyway as I am a recipient of SSI Disability benefits, I dealt with the matter by simply sending copies of her death certificate to all involved, and with it, a letter telling each debt collection agency that with the passing of my mother, there was no further obligation in the payment of her debts. Most were accommodating and left me alone...but as you can guess some weren't. I kept getting hounded by one debt collection agency time and time again...they just wouldn't let up. When I explained the situation to them via a phone call, I was told to send a copy of my mother's death certificate. Well I had already done that, but sent another one to them anyway. Then a month passed by, and I get another phone call in which I had to explain the whole situation all over again, and mind you to the very same person. I was told they never received the death certificate...could I please send another one. So yes, I sent a third one to them. Another month passes, and I get another phone call, this time from a lawyer representing the agency. Once more I had to explain the whole circumstance all over again, and told the lawyer that I've sent a total of three death certificates to the debt collection agency. The lawyer asked me to send a copy to her, which, yes as you can guess, once again I sent a copy of the certificate and I'm hoping that finally settles the matter as so far I haven't heard from the lawyer again.

Now I wish to relate my own personal run-ins and story of one debt collection agency in particular, that is NCO Financial Systems, and and agency that is relentless and really doesn't know when to give up. The real interesting thing about this particular collection agency, is that I have since found out is considered one of the biggest scam agencies going. Prior to my mother's death in 2006, I used to have AT&T as my phone company. Within a month after she passed away, I decided to switch phone companies, but I did still have an old outstanding bill with AT&T for only about $100.00. Upon getting notices from AT&T I did try to resolve the issue, directly with them and explained that I just plain wasn't able to pay the debt, not even on some kind of installment plan due to my own low monthly SSI benefits...in plain English, I just couldn't. A few months went by and I heard nothing further from them, but then I started getting letters from NCO Financial Systems, Inc. Yes, a debt collection agency, and for the old AT&T bill. Don't ask how many times I did call them and explained the situation to them...I said I just couldn't pay the bill, and it wasn't as if I owed thousands to be pestered so much by them...they just wouldn't give up, but finally they seemingly did. So almost a full year passed without hearing from them again, that is until just a month ago when I got a letter from them. Then I started to get the phone calls of which quite frankly I've ignored, though I've since written a letter back.

A few evenings ago, with the letter and phone calls in mind, I decided to go to their website at www.ncofinancial.com and perhaps also email them. However, upon going on their website, it asked that I register by submitting the "code" I was given in their letter to me, of which I did. Another page then came up asking me to submit my Social Security number. Little red flags and alarms went off, as I thought this was unusual to be asked one's Social Security number, in other words it just didn't seem right somehow. So then started doing searches on the web for any news about NCO Financial Systems, and I was amazed at what I found, particularly with the website known as RipOff Report (http://www.ripoffreport.com). On this website, are a series of complaints against NCO Financial. It seems that this collection agency not only goes after people who might have legitimate over/past-due bills, but hound people with "made-up" over-due bills, most commonly with America On-line, Inc.(1), but actually with many other companies or organizations as well especially credit card companies, but can also be for for bills that one may have already paid long time ago. In one report against them at the RipOff Report website, a person complained that they were being hounded for a bill they had already paid for in full, and the old bill went back to 1988! (2)

According to the reports in the RipOff Reports, they suggest not getting in contact with NCO and particularly not to disclose any information at their website, as a person will be subject to spyware, which will not only infect one's computer but will validate one's debt to NCO Financial, whether legitimate or not...and all I can say to that, is that I'm glad that red flag and alarms went off inside me and I didn't give out my Social Security number. The RipOff Reports website also suggested that if anyone gets letters and/or phone calls from NCO Financial Systems, to file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), of which I already have done so. It seems that writing letters or making phone calls back to this collection agency doesn't solve the problem...as they will keep after a person time and time again, so the best course of action is to complain to the FTC. Also, at another website that gave information about NCO Financial, it clearly states NOT to send NCO one penny to them as it suggests that the money only goes to them, and not to the original place or origin of the debt itself.(3)

So far I haven't be pestered too much yet by NCO Financial, although I suspect that often when my phone rings and my answering machine goes off, then get "hang-ups" it's them calling but not bothering to leave any messages from them, as I only started getting this on a daily basis soon after that first phone call where they did leave a message. I do, however happen to know a person who has been repeatedly and seriously harassed by them, getting about three letters a week and up to five separate phone calls a day, yes, a day. In such a case, if one is harassed in such a manner, it is suggested that one be made aware of the Fair Debt Collections Act, of which there are numerous websites one can log onto to know one's rights, and again, it is urgent to get in touch with the Federal Trade Commission about the unsavory practices of NCO Financial Systems, Inc. Hopefully, once done, that should be the end of any further harassment by not only this debt collection company, but any company that continually harasses a person relentlessly.

RipOff Reports and Other Websites About NCO Financial Systems, Inc

(1)
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/279/RipOff0279287.htm

(2)
http://www.ripoffreport.com/searchresults.asp?q5=NCO%20Financial&q1
=ALL&q4=&q6=&q3=&q2=&q7=&searchtype=0&submit2=Search%21&Search=Search

(3)

http://www.ethannonsequitur.com/nco-financial-systems.html

Fair Debt Collection Act

http://www.fair-debt-collection.com/fair-debt-act.html

http://www.fdic.gov/regulations/laws/rules/6500-1300.html

Published by Melanie Neer

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  • One should be aware of the unscrupulous practices that NCO Financial practices
  • Numerous complaints are known against NCO Financial Systems and suggests they are scam artists
  • If one is coninually harassed by debt collectors, one should contact the Federal Trade Commission
Whether for a legitimate old, and outstanding bill or not, NCO Financial has a history of harassing people to pay a debt. Quite often bills that NCO tries to collect are outright fabrications made up by the collection agency itself.

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  • Anita Shaw6/28/2011

    Well, I wish I had better records to prove I paid these two utility bills.

    But, I don't . . . So, I am not sure what to do. With the mess our lives were in at the time, it is possible the payments weren't made or got lost in the mail, who knows?

    The point is, NCO holds these two bills, and while they aren't a lot, they are holding us up from getting a small personal loan. Before I happened upon all the sites warning me of their deceitful ways, I had been trying to get hold of them to pay these two things off.

    Heh. They haven't, in this office, even picked up the phone. The call goes dead after one or two rings. No elevator music, no please stay on the line message, nothing.

    Calling to try to make an arrangement to pay the original creditor didn't do anything for me. I was told once the debt was sold, it is out of their hands.

    We need the loan, but it looks like we aren't going to be able get it any time soon.

  • nautical nonsense4/20/2010

    Thank you for this article I was just about to go on their site then call them again for a outstanding debit they said I had which I all ready paid the original people it was from. I glad I read this first.

  • Al4/13/2010

    Unfortunately for me, this group has purchased my student loan debt. To find out anything about the remaining balance I must contact them.

  • Luey2/22/2010

    Now im confused, this is my situation, i went overdraft on my bank account and did nothing about it and eventually igot a letter from NCO saying i need to pay what i owe but now after reading this i dont want to send them a penny so what do i do? email me please because i dont know what to do now, @: Lu.rush09@yahoo.com, thanks

  • nicole12/10/2009

    this info couldnt come at a better time. we just received word that my husband and i cant refinance our home because there is a judgement of 5,900$ against us.we have never accrued such a debt and were stumped as to what this could be.our tittle co. couldnt even give us any details as to what co. this debt was from or when it became default.because it was 3 yrs ago that it was placed in judgement we have no where to call & find out.I think its a bogus company that is coming after us.we went back over every credit card & everything we financed & cant figure out what this could be.we will fight it though. once we figure out how.any helpful advice would be appreciated.

  • kross12/6/2009

    I have filed a complaint against NCO with the FTC b/c they violated law when they continued to call at the workplace after being told not to call at work and used outright abusive/personally attacking tactics - AFTER we made payment arrangements and made a payment. Now I'm just concerned that once everything is paid off, that they won't report it paid and closed to the credit bureaus. I guess we'll see. After reading all this, I'm going to keep very good records! My advice: confirm the debt on your credit reports, file a complaint at ftc.gov (it's easy) if they acted inappropriately, and contact the origininal company/place of debt and suggest that they find another collection agency to use. NCO needs to be put out of business!!!

  • JazzMan6/25/2009

    Keep these things in mind about all consumer debt buyers, like NCO. There purpose is to separate you from your money, any way they can.The 'accounts' they buy are nothing more than a spreadsheet with minimal information about hundreds, if not thousands, of people who's debts have been charged off. With this purchase come the rights to try to collect on the debts listed. Here is the problem. They rarely get the necessary paperwork to backup the information on the spreadsheet they bought. Without the paperwork to backup the accounts listed, they have no legal claim to the person who owed the debt to the original creditor. Debt Buyers, Like NCO, prey on the fact that people don't know this. They use strong arm tactics to try to get you to pay a debt that you, in most cases, don't legally owe them, for the reason I stated above. When the strong arm tactics approach doesn't work, they frequently file lawsuits on these accounts with the goal of getting a default judgment against you. IF you

  • Mina G.6/24/2009

    I got on too late and realize I was scammed the whole time. I now have a balance of $100 that I refuse to pay until I know what's really going on with my account. I also tried to contact NCO Fincial's website to make my final payment when I came across this information. Well, an extra $100 in my pocket--at least until I know for sure that the bill truly cleared.

  • D Nelson5/4/2009

    I have had to deal with NCO Financial in the past, I sent them a letter demanding proof. When they called back I told them they were in violation of the FDCPA and that they now owed me $1,000 and that I wouldn't talk about their bogus claim until they sent me $1,000 the rep hung up. I followed it up with a letter stating the same thing. I haven't heard from them since.

  • Your name11/13/2008

    I JUST RECEIVED A BILL FROM THEM FOR SIRIUS WHICH I CANCELED OVER THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AGO.ARE THE TWO OF YOU WORKING TOGETHER. I HAD SENT SIRIUS TWO BILLS BACK TO CANCEL AND HAD TO CALL THEM TO GET IT CANCELED AND TURNED OFF. SO IF YOU ARE DEALING WITH SIRUS WATCH OUT. SOMETHING HERE IS GOING ON WITH THE TWO.

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