Online Real Vampire Community Treats Newcomers with Disrespect - Vampires 101
Rude Treatment and Lack of Help May Effect Vampire Newbies
I have been a part of the online real vampire community in one form or another since 1996. I was there back in the days of email groups and Mirc chats up through the current forums and live chats. Granted, life has taken me away from the community from time to time. It's that time away that has brought this serious issue back into my mind.
I joined an online real vampire forum group many years back (which shall remain nameless to protect the innocent), and for quite some time I was very active. I was well known and fairly respected. Due to conflicts with another member who I also knew in real life and other personal issues, I left the community and was gone for the better part of two years. When I decided it was time to come back to my "family" I found that I had been purged for inactivity. Not really a big deal, it's something that can happen on any forum. So I signed up again using my old name that everyone knew, and jumped back in.
At first things seemed to be going well. A few of the old-timers welcomed me back, and people I'd never met before did the same. I started talking, reading and posting, and all seemed fine until I went into the live chat. The first time in chat was good, I reconnected with some people and had a good time. The second time in chat caused me to take a week off to cool down so I didn't lash into anyone.
I was having a conversation with a user I knew, and I was asking if they could help me find some information I was after. They were about to point me in the right direction when someone piped in with a comment of "d*mn newbies, expect everything handed to them on a silver platter." Other disparaging newcomer remarks were also made, as if I weren't right there reading them. I never got the information I asked for, and I ended up off in a private chat with someone so I wouldn't lay into that rude user.
Now, granted, part of my anger lies in the fact that I am in no way a noob to the real vampire community, or even that forum. Several people have pointed out that I'm returning after a purge. So I was insulted to receive the disrespect even though my long standing in the community had been vouched for. What made me more angry however, was the fact that old-timers would treat someone they perceived to be new in the vampire community with such disrespect.
If I were a new member, treating me that way could have caused me to have any number of reactions. Some newcomers would have ignored the rude party and continued on, some would have left the community and gone elsewhere for information, some may have left and never found what they needed to know, and for others it may have been the last straw and caused them to commit suicide. I know that sounds extreme, but it could very well happen, and probably has.
Someone, especially a younger person, coming into a real vampire community looking for information and guidance is already in fragile state. They are wondering who and what they are, feeling lonely and misunderstood, and searching for people who will understand them. Being treated disrespectfully and with such disregard could easily drive someone over the edge. If people in a vampire subculture that is supposed to embrace the strange outcasts can't even understand or respect them, who ever could?
I've never really understood this mentality of long-time members treating newcomers like dirt. Now, not all of the old-timers do this, some are gentle and kind and treat people properly. But the bad apples tend to make a big impression. Perhaps they don't think of their actions as out of line, but they certainly are, and they do not paint a good picture of the real vampire community as a whole. I suggest that these people think of their behavior as it would relate in real life.
For one thing, asking a more established member of the community for help is showing respect, and admitting that you are bowing to their greater knowledge. Newcomers are like students, and the older members like teachers. When a student asks their teacher a question, it is appropriate to either give the answer or point them in the right direction, not to insult them for not having gone out and found the answer for themselves already.
You can also think of it this way: If you adopted a child and they asked where the cereal was kept, would you tell them where it was, and acquaint them with other items in their new home, or would you tell them to buzz of and find it for themselves? If a new neighbor came to your door and asked where the post office or a good restaurant was located, would you share your knowledge of the area, or tell them to get lost and use Google or the phone book? Most of us would never be this rude and make such a bad impression on new people.
It's also similar to going to a shopping center or library. Do you spend countless hours wandering the aisles trying to find what you need, or do you lean on the expertise of the staff and ask them to direct you to the right place? The mentality of telling new community members to stop asking questions and find their own answers, especially in a forum with more information than you could wade through in a year, is insane and insensitive. I have always been more than happy to point a newcomer in the right direction. I will even answer a question that's been asked many times before. It's just the right thing to do.
I intent to ask the members of this real vampire community to read this article. Hopefully it will open their eyes to the way they treat new members, and cause them to act in a more friendly and helpful manner. The older and presumably wiser members of the community should lead by example and always show respect and understanding in the community, to all members both old and new. You are teachers and leaders, perhaps you should act as such.
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7 Comments
Post a CommentThe OVC can be a difficult place to navigate sometimes, but it's still better than trying to deal with this stuff all on yor own in the mundane world. If you find the people in a forum to be rude, close-minded or jsut plain nuts, look for another one you like better. Eventually you'll find one that suits you & eventually you'll mke friends who you'll recognise & stay friends with no matter which forums you visit.
...they personally find irritating. Helping newbies can also take a great deal of patience sometimes, & as vampires we may not have the energy researve to do it. I get emails & IMs asking for help all the time, but often I just can't gather the emotional strength to do respond to them. I can't tell them if they're really a vampire or not. I can't tell them how to feed more easily. I can't tell them their family & friends will be accepting, because usually they won't be. The forums I use to visit aren't the same ones I visit now either, in part because I got tired of drama there & in part because I needed to learn form people who knew more than I did. Often it's not so much like being students & teachers, as it is like being in different classes in high school. The seniors don't want to hang with the freshmen.
How bad this problem is in a forum varies depening on a variety of factors, but I think there are a few common ones involved.
For one, people get tired of answering the same questions over & over. This is why there are FAQs pages at most sites. Newbies should be sure to read these introductory & FAQ's pages thoroughly before entering a real vampire forum. Then, after posting a brief introduction, they should hang out & read a few threads before posting anything else. This is so they can gage the personalities & hot buttons of the other members.
Second, real vampires on the whole tend to be tempermental, egotistical, and territorial. Because of their energy deficiencies, they do often feel rather like they have PMS & so can be quick tempered. They often think they're smarter than most people & have little tolerance for fools or clueless folks. They also can have a sort of pack mentality, defending what they see as their little home on the internet from people or subjects t
A big part of it depends on how they interact with a new setting. Some people come in and go out of there way to be impressive, it often as the opposite effect. Still bright, witty, intelligent people are pretty easily accepted from my expirence. But if they come in with a chip on their shoulder or a sense of elitism it often goes over poorly
So, telling someone who is "newly awakened" that we can't tell them if they are a vampire or not is rude? They need to do a bit of soul searching first before just letting us tell them who they are. That's no excuse not to welcome and get to know them first. I always see community members greeting new people in the way they should be greeted. No other way. So is that it? Its RUDE not to just hand feed everything to someone?
I have seen this behavior in VampireChatCity.com and find it appalling! When I see an obvious "Newb" enter chat I immediately PM them and welcome them. I then proceed to warn them to not announce they are new and advise them to sit tight for a few minutes and follow the conversation. It's fairly easy to see who is connected to who and pick up on the online dynamics of these "relationships". I warn them of who in particular to look out for and if they are genuinely nice, add them as a friend and tell them if they run into trouble to come get me. Most people on the site have a good deal of respect for me and will lay if if I tell them to.
Cleve
As a member of the community myself, I've learned that both male and female vamps have their time of the month, and sometimes it's more like their time of the week. I frequently shrug off rude comments as someone who just needs a rare steak. It is nice to see another member of the community writing.