Rapper Slim Thug Thinks Black Women Should Lower Their Standards
Slim Thug Thinks Successful Black Men Are 'kind of Extinct'
Slim Thug made comments like "Most single Black women feel like they don't want to settle for less. Their standards are too high right now. They have to understand that successful Black men are kind of extinct." To say a successful black man is extinct is a self-fulfilling prophecy. If a black man is willing to confirm this stereotype and has a naïve fanbase who is willing to go along with his views, then after awhile people will really believe that it's impossible for a black man to be successful.
Slim Thug also says "White women treat they [sic] man like a king and Black women feel like they ain't gotta do that shit." While reading this Vibe.com entry, it made me wonder when did he take time to do this piss poor survey about these black women who don't do anything. Is it possible to believe that it could be the social circle of women he's surrounding himself with instead of black women in general? If your circle is leading you to a bunch of negative, gold-digging women, you might just need to start dating other types of women.
If you've read my "Tough Love Letter to Black Women Who Hate When Black Men Are in Interracial Dating Relationships" that GlobalGrind.com linked (originally published on ChicagoNow.com), you're aware that I have zero problems with black men dating women of other races. And my initial reaction after reading this blog was to say, "Stop worrying about what @slimthugga says. I got my copy of @EssenceMagazine today. Cover title: "I love being a Black Woman" #runtellthat." I'd just gotten my copy of Essence Magazine a few minutes before I sat down to read this.
But I spent the next half hour or so venting about the topic so I guess I did care about his opinion. Keep in mind I'm not a fan of Slim Thug's music. It's not my flavor. I don't agree with what Vibe's Twitter page said, "Riddle me this...Folks are mad about @slimthugga's take on dating but people say way crazier -ish in music and...you dance to it. SMH." Clearly Vibe Magazine doesn't realize that not every woman is out there dropping it like it's hot and bouncing all over the dance floor while the deejay is beating her upside the head with bitch-ho-trick lyrics. Sorry, Vibe, those aren't the artists I'm listening to.
What bothers me about this entry is that there are a lot of misguided young black men who will suffer by reading and co-signing on his every word. If you hear enough people tell you that a certain group is a certain way, they'll start believing it. One Twitter user went so far as to say, "@SillyBoi_Darous when it comes to being scared of letting ur heart go & trusting a nigga wit it #AndtheAwardGoesTo #BlackWomen."
My response? "As long as you're calling yourself a nigga/thug, you'll be treated like 1. #BlackWomen want black men, not niggas or thugs. #getyourgrownon"
What I'm noticing in today's music is that people who are so quick to insult another group of people don't think much of themselves. Here's a guy who clearly is doing some exceptional things in the music industry and, as super producer Pharrell stated on "The Tyra Banks Show," he was making his own money before he was hot to the rest of the world. But instead of representing himself as a businessman and someone positive, he chooses to wear a suit with a golden gun pointed at us and calls himself "Slim Thug." Not Slim Businessman. Not Slim Man. Not Slim Brotha. Nothing to compliment himself as a grown African-American man who has taken on a lucrative business in the rap industry. He calls himself a thug proudly. So if he's proud of that, why would I even humor his opinion about anybody else? That was my bad, not his.
As a journalist, we have every right to decide what we will and won't publish. Hiding under the umbrella that we are an "outlet" and conveniently ignoring the truth that we are continuing to spread negativity in a community that clearly doesn't need the help makes me lose respect for that outlet. So after canceling my subscription to Vibe Magazine after the idiotic comments I read on Vibe's Twitter page (ex. "Let's end it on this...VIBE doesn't defending/condone anyone that we cover or their views. We are a music media outlet. Plain and simple."), I had to re-read my own entry about interracial dating.
Never dedicate time to someone who doesn't want you. While you are certainly entitled to defend yourself, keep in mind that the person who dogs "most" of any group like he really knows "most" of this entire group is doing you a favor. Let him keep dogging you. That scratches him off the list of people who could possibly waste your time. You only have one life to live. Might as well do it with positive, intelligent people. Let the crabs pull somebody else down.
Pick up your copy of the July 2010 Essence Magazine today. Make sure to read the section "I Love Being a Black Woman." And although he did it facetiously, thanks to Slim Thug for retweeting that, too.
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Post a Comment...sing "I'm not worthy" on that song "Fancy." My opinion is to filter which rap you listen to, not boycott it altogether. As far as Jay-Z, yeah, he's definitely guilty of being disrespectful but he also created the song "Bitches vs. Sistas" to decipher between the two. And it's hard for me to be mad at a man who went above and beyond looking sprung by rocking matching outfits with his wife, sulking about wanting children and being openly vocal about being attracted to her on and off song. He may not be crazy about every woman, but he certainly loves Beyonce.
But Tabby, I'm definitely with you on boycotting music that's just flat out disrespectful. The songs you mentioned are ones I have heard (minus Rick Ross who have no desire to listen to), but then I've turned around and heard these same artists make damn near desperate I'm-so-in-love-with-you songs. Lil' Wayne's song "Prostitute" was the most non-judgmental song I've ever heard come out of a man's mouth. Initially I just thought dude had no standards but I see where he's going with it. Chris Brown is always drooling over women (before and after Rihanna), and that song "Deuces" could apply to ANY man or woman that you're fed up with. I blast that song proudly. Drake is another one who is always rapping about being in love with some woman who broke his heart. Although T.I. annoyed me in his verse that was supposed to put a positive light on a woman who stands out from gold-diggers, Drake did everything but bow down and sing &quo
...members and a childhood friend who flat out would only date light-skinned men so I understand the long-time effects that can have on people who have insecurities about skin complexion. However, I also have plenty of light-skinned women in my family who I think are beautiful so I have no problem with the Lil' Waynes of the world big-upping them for their beauty. Your point about boycotting rap because of this doesn't sit well with me though. You picked a select group of guys (by the way, Chris Brown is not a rapper) over an entire music genre. I'd strongly suggest visiting my "Ode to Brown-Skinned Women, Do Musicians Show Them Love?" (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2742547/ode_to_brownskinned_women_do_musicians.html) with songs from rappers and singers (coincidentally including Chris Brown) who croon about brown-skinned women.
Like the n-word, there are some people who agree with it and some who don't. I DO NOT! But I do agree with you about not supporting artists who SOLELY just insult women (ex. Luke, Too Short, Ice T, etc.). As much as I like Eminem lyrically, I just can't respect how he raps about his (ex-) wife so I've never been a fan. But here's the problem I found with the blog. I've heard songs from women big-upping dark-skinned brothas. I love my chocolate brothas so I'll sing along. So why is it wrong for Lil' Wayne to think light-skinned women look better? That's his preference. As a brown woman, I honestly just couldn't give a damn. I'm being honest. Nothing about Lil' Wayne is attractive to me so I couldn't care less what he finds attractive plus his own opinion is flawed considering his first wife was a very pretty, brown-skinned woman (Toya). I get where you're coming from with his daughter though because I also have color-struck family memb
Hi Tabby, thanks for dropping by. I read your comment and the blog, and there are parts I agree with and don't agree with. Stop buying rap music: Okay, here's the problem with that. There are artists who are coming at ONE particular type of woman as opposed to all of them, and that is where I see the gray area. For example, TLC came at "Scrubs" but then big-upped men who are doing their thing. Destiny's Child created "Bugaboo" and "Bills, Bills, Bills," but then created "Cater to You." Jazmine Sullivan had "Bust Your Windows," but then she went into lions, tigers and bears about love. I don't mind artists venting about a woman who got on his nerves. I can understand that. I can't even blame it totally on men because women are calling themselves "bitches." It's really hard to form an argument against a word when female rappers like Eve, Trina and Nicki Minaj are calling themselves "bitches." Li
It's about time for black women and girls to simply stop buying rap music by black rappers who degrade their own race. Lil Wayne recently said in a song that he thinks black women would look better red (meaning redbone or light). I mean, how much more will you take black ladies? Boycott rap.
I apologize if I'm not supposed to post links here, but this is a list of 5 instances of disrespect by rappers toward black women -- I need more:
http://blog.classyblacklady.com/2010/12/black-rappers-vs-black-women-5-specific.html
Indecisive, you make great points, especially about some of our standards being so low. Just excusing someone for being disrespectful is completely insane to me. Thank you for your comments.
Interesting post @ Shamontiel....
@Krista Hudson Some people will disrespect a person even when they carry themselves in the "correct" way. That doesn't mean you have to condone or even co-sign for that matter with this type of behavior. The black population simple needs to "raise" their aspirations and move forward. The first step is to slow down on having children out of wedlock long enough to at least become self sufficient. Most of the problems faced are economic issues that lend a hand to other issues. Ex: Baby without a financial support = women finding ways if they don't have their education or a decent job...... Hence multiple baby father drama... for a lot of the women. The standards are already so low and if they were to sink any lower we'd be in a dumpster.....
...why should I care what he thinks?" I've never heard anybody in Chicago or even while I was in school in Missouri bumping his music heavy, but the fact remains we do know his name. And even if one young, black boy chooses to co-sign with him, that's another brotha we lost to stereotypical and ignorant comments. Again, I'm never going to knock interracial relationships, but putting down a whole race (especially your own) is just a shame to me!
Hey Lynn, thanks for coming back to respond to my question. The person who left the "indentured servant" comment was a guy. I think he was basically saying that white women were perceived to go above and beyond for their men. I'd never knock the reputation. Every woman who loves a man SHOULD want to go above and beyond. But the way he delievered the message (the link to the Vibe entry is on the right-hand side) was what I didn't respect. Another rapper Talib Kweli (who I'll more than likely include in my Black Music Month entries) came to his defense and said he was "misunderstood." I disagree. He confirmed every single thing he said in Vibe on Twitter, but now he's also hiding behind the "I was misquoted" deal, too. How can you be misquoted when you said the same things on Twitter? *shaking my head* That blog bugged me on so many levels, but again, I had to reflect, "If he is proud of calling himself a thug and aims a gun on his Twitter account to show exactly what he's supporting, wh