The Birth of the Firefox Web Browser in the Netscape Family

A Conversation with Blake Ross, the Sixteen-year-old Who Helped Create the Firefox Browser

Dana Greenlee
Last year was a breakout year for 20-year-old Blake Ross. He was on the cover of Wired Magazine, nominated for Wireds' Renegade of the Year and named to Rolling Stone magazine's Hot List. This came six years after he started working at Netscape as a developer - at age 14.

Blake co-founded the Firefox project and also co-founded SpreadFirefox.com. The Firebox browser has really grown online and actually 'encouraged' Microsoft to upgrade its old IE6 browser. He now is the author of the new book "Firefox for Dummies".

Greenlee: You worked at Netscape many years ago. What was that like?

Blake: I started working at Netscape, and really the Mozilla project before that, when I was 14 years old. Because Netscape is based on this open source project, I was working with a lot of engineers at Netscape and they kind of liked the work I was doing and offered me an internship during the summer. I'm not sure they realize how old I was at that point. I said I was a student - I think they thought a college student-but it became pretty clearly when I got out there and my mother was dropping me off at work everyday. I worked at Netscape for two or three summers in Mountain View, CA. To be honest with you, the first summer was a great first job for someone my age, but it kind of went down hill from there. I was at Netscape after the AOL takeover.

Greenlee: What motivated you from your Netscape experience to create Firefox?

Blake: If you've ever talk to someone who worked at Netscape during the Golden Period, it was a very different time back then. When I was there, it was managed by AOL, Netscape.com was kind of the focus of the company, this portal, and the Netscape browser was just this vehicle for driving traffic to the Netscape.com portal. We were trying to create a solid, end-user browser that my mother could configure very easily, get on the Web, get her work done without her having to think of browser settings, viruses and that sort of thing. It was very hard to realize that vision within Netscape since they were all about the portal and the bottom line.

Greenlee: You started to create Firefox while at Netscape?

Blake: It was strange because some people think Firefox was an attack on IE (Microsoft Internet Explorer). It really was just a response to our frustration trying to get the product we wanted to make, made. So a couple of guys and myself started to work nights at Netscape on this separate fork of the code base called Firefox - or it was called Phoenix at that point. We spent a lot of our time at the beginning just going to Denny's and blowing off steam and meeting online or going to people's houses and just doing a lot of complaining. One day we decided it was time to stop complaining and time to start making a product - that's the beauty of open source, that we could do that. It wasn't buy-in from Netscape. We were ust basically working on Netscape during the day and our project at night. We started getting good reviews. We managed to boost the performance of the browser a lot by stripping away a lot of the unnecessary features that were inside of Netscape.

Greenlee: How far into the process did you guys have to go before Netscape bought into what you're doing?

Blake: They never really did buy into it. They kept going with their own line of products - Netscape 6 and 7 suites which were kind of the whole kitchen and I'm sure you'll recall that those were not well received by the public or the critics. We did offer Firefox to Netscape, suggesting they ship our product-and they declined. Now, they are putting out Netscape 8 which is based on Firefox, so it's kind of going full circle. At that point, Netscape decided to exit the browser market and spun off Mozilla into a separate organization.
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Blake Ross has a blog at http://www.BlakeRoss.com.

Published by Dana Greenlee

http://boston-legal.org/dana.shtml - I'm a podcaster co-hosting Web Talk Radio and a 'Boston Legal' podcast . I was a CBS.com tv podcaster in 2005 interviewing CBS stars. I live in Washington and am a techno...  View profile

  • As a teenage, Blake Ross developed Firefox browser at night and worked at Netscape during the day.
  • The Firefox browser creator offered it to Netscape and they turned it down.
  • Firefox was built to make a browser much easier to use for new web surfers.
When Netscape hired Blake Ross based on his developer skills, they didn't know he was fourteen years old.

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  • Dana Greenlee6/25/2006

    Lolaness - thank you for the comment. You're so right about Blake. In a way, he fits that old adage, 'No one knows you're a dog on the Internet'. He did great coding and Netscape brought him on, not realizing he was only 14!

  • Lolaness6/25/2006

    Fantastic interview and really ... wow ... some kids make ya feel like you've wasted the last 15+ years of your life, ya know? Keep up the great work :)

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