The Gun Control Debate: Does the Second Amendment Mean We Must Allow Insane Convicts to Own Assault Weapons?
What Does the Odd Wording of This Constitutional Amendment Really Mean?
In the CBS story, correspondent Lesley Stahl visits a gun show in Virginia and chats with Philip Van Cleave, the president of Virginia's largest gun-rights group. They spoke of the loophole. "Why not make it uniform and have everybody go through the background check?" Stahl asked. Van Cleave replied with the same hard-line attitude typical of all NRA members and the powerful gun rights lobby: "Well, how about making it uniform and have nobody go through the background check?" he replied. The Second Amendment doesn't say, 'You can get a gun if you go through a background check.'" I wish Stahl had asked him the question that I like to ask such people-do you really want it to be easy for nut-cases and convicted felons to be able to get guns just so you can cling to your all-or-nothing attitude about the second amendment? I suspect that Van Cleave would have said yes, it's OK with him if they can get guns easily, because guns don't kill people, criminals do, or some other trite cliché. He would argue like so many do that it is better to arm everybody so that the criminals won't be the only ones with the guns.
Such opponents of gun control often cite claims that in places where gun control legislation is enacted, armed robberies or murders go up not down. But such claims have no basis in fact, and when they actually quote statistics to back them, the statistics are misused or flat out wrong. In one of the comments on the CBS web site that claim is repeated: "statistics prove that every where there has been a ban on guns of any kind, crime goes through the roof." It prompted me to search for any such statistics. I found an article reporting on a detailed analysis of the effect of gun control legislation on crime rates published in the Cato Journal, mouthpiece of the Libertarian Cato Institute. Despite their obvious bias against gun control, the best they could come up with was a lack of evidence to show that crime rates went down due to gun control, but even they could not show that rates actually went up. Another article I found debunks the commonly forwarded email about the Australian experience after their 1995 gun buyback program: "According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics, the proportion of armed robberies involving firearms has actually declined over the last several years."
So what does the Second Amendment to the Constitution really say and why is it interpreted in such different ways by different people? Well, the complete text of the amendment is:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
This wording in its entirety sounds awkward or weird, but the more often quoted final phrase seems clearer: "The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." The pro-gun people often conveniently leave out that odd phrase in front rather than attempting to interpret how it might modify the overall intent. There has been and continues to be much debate over what it really means or what the authors intended, and whether it should even apply today in situations unanticipated by them.
A good summary of the debate is found in this paragraph from spectacle.org :
"The Second Amendment is surrounded by an unusual amount of fog for a plainly written clause of a constitution. While some of this is attributable to an apparent contradiction in its language--a tension between "Militia" and "people"-- much more of the confusion is attributable to hype created by both sides in the gun dispute. The gun control people don't want the word "people" to mean anything and the gun rights people don't want the word "militia" to mean anything."
Other good discussions on this topic are found in my reference links below.
So, what do you think - should we really allow guns to be sold to murderous nut-cases without any registration or restrictions at all? Or is that hard-line position too extreme? Is any middle ground possible on this issue?
References:
http:// www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/charters.html
https://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cj26n1/cj26n1.html
http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1114/what-does-the-right-to-bear-arms-really-mean
http:// www.spectacle.org/996/2d.html
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4 Comments
Post a CommentSnide, I do think that eliminating the loophole for gun shows would go a long way toward reducing the potential for easy access to guns by those who should not have them (e.g. insane and criminals). That might even be a good compromise position. However, in principle I do believe that it is acceptable for the regulations to apply even in the case of more "private" transactions, like between neighbors. I cannot legally sell morphine, for example, to my neighbor unless I am a licensed pharmacist and register the sale. Why should guns be any less regulated? Of course, given your libertarian bent, I suspect that you would prefer that the regulations on controlled substance be eliminated too...
Stoos, the argument is about private citizens conducting private transactions between themselves. IF they conducted the private transaction NOT in the parking lot of the gun show, would that satisfy your position here? Of do you advocate ALL guns sales, even those between private citizens need a background check? Good luck with that. As for your comment "just because something has always been allowed does not mean it should continue to be allowed when creating regulations to restrict it." I AM AGAINST THE CREATING OF NEW "RESTRICTIONS!!!"
Thanks for commenting. In response let me say that just because something has always been allowed does not mean it should continue to be allowed when creating regulations to restrict it. While at first it seems awfully intrusive for a law to ban "private sales" of anything, there is precedent which I think is a good analogy: consider the sales of "controlled substances" (such as prescription medications)-- we are not allowed to sell them to each other without being appropriately licensed and registering the sales, regardless of whether the sale is "private" or in a drugstore. That is because the substances are dangerous in the wrong hands-- something that applies to guns big time!
Gun sales HAVE ALWAYS BEEN allowed between private individuals without any gov't involvement. Look at the classifieds in your local newspaper. I can advertise and sell anything i wish. I have NO obligation to run a background check, and never has any sale between private citizens. This "loophole" is a talking point. I can advertise and sell or buy anything I want and it ain't gov't business. Just because a sale between private citizens takes place at the gun show does not nor should it change the basic nature of freedom for private citizens. Buy a gun from a dealer and do a background check. But a gun from your neighbor, and there is none. AND THIS IS HOW IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN!