THE PROPHECY of JUDE, and the BOOK of ENOCH

Do We Really READ What We Read?

Jeff  Miztah  Rogers
I would like to ask a question, pose a position. The common use of Jude 14-15, as I have heard it for many years; is an application to the fulfillment of that prophecy in the first century. As I read Jude I see that starting in verse 5 Jude sets out to show God's willingness to judge as a warning to the first century readers who would witness the judgment in 70 A.D. He shows this willingness to judge by recounting past events of God's judgment.

5. I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.

(PAST EVENT)

6. And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

(PAST EVENT)

7. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

(PAST EVENT)

8. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

9. Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

(PAST EVENT)

10. But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

11. Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

(PAST EVENT)

12. These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

13. Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

In light of this list of past accounts of God's judgment; how is it our hermeneutic switches to a future event? What is it in the context that changed to make verses 14-15 future events when the entire context leading up to it is a listing of PAST EVENTS?

In considering this, read Deuteronomy 33:2.

"And he (Moses) said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them."

Is this quote from Deuteronomy not a fulfillment of what ENOCH prophesied? We must recognize that Jude did not make the prophesy, he merely quoted the ancient prophecy. I believe that this prophecy was well known by the patriarchs (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and even Moses), when Moses quotes (paraphrased) Enoch's prophesy in Deuteronomy I believe he is declaring to the nation that this prophesy is about to come to pass in the conquering of the promised land at the hand of Joshua and the "Ten Thousands of (Old Covenant) Saints".

Read verses 14 and 15 of Jude again with this in mind. I believe we are looking at another in the list of recounted PAST EVENTS of God's willingness to judge the ungodly.

14. And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

15. To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

Let me know what you think.

For many folks, a conclusion is simply
the place where they got tired of thinking.

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  • samantha f2/27/2012

    Those rootless self serving blemishes at a feats blown by wind rootless foaming Waves from sea saved for the blackest? Made hard speeches against him sounds like virgils Tiber speech or. Something from the rivers of blood they all mention foam I wonder! Typical multicultural babylondon the great I would say committing adultery with all the nations ,flattering others for their own gain!

  • Roger9/3/2011

    Good article...not many people bring out the significance of ENoch, 7th generation from Adam...Enoch also prophesied that after 70 generations, judgement would come. In Luke“s gospel, Luke records 70 generations from Adam to Christ.

    Also, the angels (messengers) which kept not their 1st estate were the Israelites in the rebellion of Korah (I think) When God caused the ground to open up and swallow them up...They wanted to take over the priesthood. I get a kick out of christians saying in Genesis 6 that fallen angels had sex with women...I believe Gen 6 is talking about the lineage of Seth intermarrying with the ungodly line of Cain.

  • Bob Lucas6/9/2011

    Good work Jeff. Jude, servant of Jesus Christ and a brother of James, was writing to real people who were his contemporaries there in the latter part of the first century. I don't think there is any question about that. He writes (v4), "For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you." Later he writes (v12) "These men are blemishes at your love feasts..." In verse 14 we read, "Enoch, the seventh from Adam prophesied about these men: 'See the Lord is coming...to judge everyone..." So far it looks like everything written here has to do with a situation that was going on at that time, not some future time as some have thought.

    Further, in verse 17 Jude begins encouraging his contemporary audience: "But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ fortold. They said to you, 'In the last times there will be scoffers...' "

    It is obvious that the "last time

  • Jeff Rogers3/1/2011

    Thanks for the Comment Scott. That is something I had not considered. You seem like an extended thinker. I love it when people can see outside of the mainstream thought and actually process it through means of thinking and meditation. With the end result that you may have a reasonable conclusion. Keep working the idea over and see what comes of it...but stick close to the words of scripture as you do.

    Jeff

  • Scott Barnes3/1/2011

    My first thought when reading Enoch's prophesy from Jude was that it was a foretelling of the Flood.

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