Well now, why not let's go right to the sources and settle this little misnomer under which so many of them big brained folks seem to operate under? Of course even my exact, verbatim and fully quoted and noted recitation of the words of these brilliant men will not suffice.
But at least the reader will know in future that the big brain opining for your amusement is in fact ignorant or just plain dishonest, and therefore their words on this topic, should they differ from the following, are indeed for amusement purposes only. They will certainly not be accurate, factual or anything else upon which one may rely.
Mr. Jefferson spoke to the topic directly with his comment, "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." Jefferson's justifications for his statement are found in comments like "when the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty," and "force is the vital principle and immediate parent of despotism."
The Framer's cautioned against despotic government so vehemently they made sure to warn that despotic government must be stopped, buy force if necessary, with statements like Jefferson's admonitions, "for a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security." He expounded on his point when he stated "the strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
Then Jefferson addressed that keeping liberty might be difficult and warned us "We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed." And he also addressed those not so inclined with "timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty."
So, is there any doubt where Jefferson stood on this?
John Adams was rather direct when he stated "arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion... in private self-defense," and even more controversial and bold when he offered "the right of a nation to kill a tyrant in case of necessity can no more be doubted than to hang a robber, or kill a flea."
Is their any ambiguity in John Adams' voice?
Thomas Paine told us "arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property... Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them."
Washington said "the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good." Then he seemingly justified his belief with the statement "it will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it."
James Madison went right to the point of the current debate when he observed "Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." Then he made sure to warn us as to why the first statement is needed when he argued "A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained in arms, is the best most natural defense of a free country."
Madison also warned us that our instincts are right when our ears perk up with his "We are right to take alarm at the first experiment upon our liberties." I wonder if anyone is listening today, besides me of course.
Samuel Adams, revolutionary extraordinaire told us "the Constitution shall never be construed... to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
Patrick Henry, statesman extraordinaire said "guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined." And to see the first statement not come true Henry said "The great object is that every man be armed."
The Marquis de Lafayette is a legend in Revolutionary history. He observed "when the government violates the people's rights, insurrection is, for the people and for each portion of the people, the most sacred of the rights and the most indispensable of duties.
Wow. So here we are, right back at the beginning, wiser for our journey, no? The truth will indeed set you free. Fail to heed it at your peril, and dreadfully, the peril of my nation. The ignorance of some is shocking, but the arrogance of many is galling.
The ignorance can be addressed. I will do so by telling readers how important the Founders thought it was for people to be aware and informed in the ways of history, fact and reality. Truth and honor . . . all that stuff.
The arrogance is a different breed of cat. I cannot educate an intransigent individual who is convinced they know best. Trust they confound me a little, but they amuse me a lot, hence why I so enjoy them.
Lemme leave ya with a quote form one of my favorite people - Rush Limbaugh - "You know why there's a Second Amendment? In case the government fails to follow the first one."
The truth really chaps some folks' backsides, don't it? And for some twisted reason I find that delightfully and completely funny, in the most evil, handlebar mustache twirling best, Snidely Whiplash way possible.
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15 Comments
Post a CommentAt a recent gun show there was an MP44 for sale. This is a Nazi weapon, and the first assault rifle in the world. It was for sale for $32,000. At a gub show before that there was a Browning M2 .50 caliber MG for sale. It was mounted on a tripod, and for about $40L one could buy a weapon that can shoot down airliners. So, anyone in the US shooting down airliners? These are working pieces of history and absolutely collector's items. No one drop $30K or $40K on an automatic weapon to commit a crime with it. Leave the law abiding alone and lock up and throw away the key on gun crime perps - works every time it's tried.
The Framers hated slavery Patricia. The 3/5's compromise was exactly that - a compromise. THe Framers knew they had to accept slavery because without it the south would not have signed on. As well, in 1789, slavery was still legal in all states I believe. As for machine guns, run of the mill citizens cannot possess them. But a class III FFL licensee may. The cost for an automatic weapon is astounding. Cont'd above.
While I am certainly pro-gun rights, asking what the Framers said could lead to questions like, "What did the Framers mean when they approved of slavery?" Our constitutiuon IS a living document, contrary to popular belief, and can indeed be amended. I also don't think private citizens need things like machine guns and armor piercing ammo. Some things should be left to the police and military.
Good point Mike. I wonder if that ever occurred to the naysayers. Course even if it had, they would have just ignored it. For them it ain't about facts and history - it is about weaving a justification for their desires, and seemingly any old justification will do just fine. Greta observation Mike, and John, I can't find enuff storage space for an ICBM, but by-God my closets are full of guns and ammo. Tango, anyone?
As far as our Second Amendment being an individual right or not, I ask simply; Why would all the other 9 articles of the Bill of Rights be about individual rights, yet the Second not be? And Scotty is indeed right about the crime rate being directly proportionate to the armed citizenry. When I used to run with the low-lifes of my youth, guess which houses we'd hit? That's right! We ONLY hit the houses where we knew for sure the homeowner's didn't pack heat! DUH!!!
I want an ICBM.
And a damn fine opinion it is too!
I bet you this will get more air play on the liberal news media than the killing of the soldier by a Islamic terrorist on American soil. As for the "far righties" comment by wcb..umm..the last time I checked the DOJ and FBI stats, the majority of the ones who commit crimes with guns tend to vote Democrat in elections. Here is another little stat that most anti-gun wingnuts don't know. Let me educate those liberals:
"According to the FBI, states with "shall-issue" right-to-carry laws have a 26 percent lower total violent crime rate, a 20 percent lower homicide rate, a 39 percent lower robbery rate and a 22 percent lower aggravated assault rate than those
states that do not allow their citizens to legally carry guns."
Ever wonder why the crime rates are so high in Chicago and Washington, DC? Besides being run by anti-gun nut liberals they also don't allow handguns in private homes..hmmm. Just my opinion :)
And I won't mention Obama's dislike of the Jews is probably stirring up the crazies.
Extreme is extreme no matter which side its on. I guess WCB is sad it wasn't more U.S. Soldiers getting shot.