YouTube Debate Highlights Differences between Grand Valley State University and Allendale, Michigan

How a Liberal College and Conservative Town Both Find Simliarites in the Democratic Candidates

Todd B.
I have the unique situation in which I attend a highly liberal college smack dab in the middle of an overly conservative farm town. Issues brought up in the CNN YouTube Democratic party debate highlight the differences between my college, Grand Valley State University, and the town of Allendale, MI.

One main issue that tears apart the balance between these two communities living in one town is the war in Iraq. Many students believe, somewhat irrationally, that we should pull the troops now. They feel we have stayed too long, and that the best solution is to yank the troops out. The view of the conservative town, mentioned by some of the Democrats during the debate (including Barack Obama), is that a slow removal of troops is best -- the idea being that we cannot just pull the troops from the country, leaving it in shambles. Obama brought up a good point, however, that the cooperation with the current Iraqi government is not so "hot", noting the three week hiatus the legislature took because of the heat in Baghdad.

"Well, let me tell you: It is hot for American troops who are over there with 100 pounds worth of gear," Obama said during the debate, highlighting his belief that a withdrawal needs to begin soon. Hilary Clinton noted that the troops should be removed as safely as possible, "but we want to do so safely, and orderly and carefully."

The other main issue that shows glaring dissimilarity is the debate on gay marriage and civil unions. The conservatives in the town have shown to generally be against gay marriage. Many liberals in the town, however, match the majority of those in the debate, that a Civil Union is the best solution to the problem.

Governor Bill Richardson stated that "what I think is achievable is full civil unions with full marriage right", highlighting the same general feeling of both Obama and Clinton. Most candidates support civil marriages as a way to ensure that gay couples receive the same equality that straight couples do as far as government recognized rights. While many fall short of giving the unions the title of marriage, the main idea is to allow them the same rights, as Obama listed, such as "the rights of people to transfer property, to have hospital visitation, all those critical civil rights that are conferred by our government."

Living in a town divided equally between conservatives and liberals, it was interesting to see how on some subjects, the democrats in the YouTube debates supported the liberal side. Sometimes, however, they found similar cause with the conservatives of the town, showing their impressive wide range in the town.

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  • Todd B.7/27/2007

    It cut off the rest of my comment...

    anyway, again, i apologize. I've tried, but I cannot go back to change/edit the article, as I realize now my wording was incorrect and harsh, unfairly pinning Allendale as the poster town for the beliefs of the surrounding area. I'm new to this whole article/journalism idea, and I've already learned from this experience that I need to be careful with my words. A careless generalization was a mistake on my part.

  • Todd B.7/27/2007

    As far as Allendale itself, the only major, concrete information that I could find was that in the 2006 election for Governer, Allendale averaged around 70+ percent for Dick DeVos. Dick DeVos was very open about his Anti-Gay Marriage beliefs. It's well known that we are in what some lovingly refer to as the "Bible Belt". Basically, we are in the strip that has strong christian beliefs. That being said, the general reasoning is that gay marriage is not something supported. The feeling that many college students get about the town is that it follows these beliefs. Are there anti gay marches and such? No. But all we have are assumptions, seeing as how we've moved to a new town and are feeling things out. Are all Allendale residents anti gay marriage? No, I never implied that every singe one was, and if I offended you, I do apologize. I do know, however, the general feeling my friends and I have felt in this area, and we find that gay marriage support is seemingly few and far between. If

  • Allendale Citizen7/26/2007

    I'm curious...how do you know so much about the "conservatives in town" and their opinions on matters?

    You write, for example, that the "conservatives in town have shown to be generally against gay marriage". How do you know this? Has this been stated in the local paper, the Ottawa Advance, or any other publications? Have there been debates in Allendale about the topic? Have there been opinion polls of the Allendale citizenry? Have there been "anti-gay marriage" marches"? Anything at all for you to arrive at such a conclusion? If so, can you present some evidence?

    As a nine year resident of Allendale and very attune to the news and events in the community. Where do you get your "facts" or ideas? Is it simply your own prejudice?

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